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I'll be honest it sounds like bs. No one, not even fremantle, can afford 1.5mil a year.

That part is true. Don't think we ever see multiple firsts without SOMETHING coming back.

Latest update from Twomey says fremantle aren't budging on their initial offer. No west coast offer yet either.

I'd like to think we package it with one of our (or freos) F1 to move up this year

I'm pretty sure everything at this point is just what's going back to freo. They've offered up 13, F1, north's F2 which I think were happy to take, but they want at least one current or future second rounder coming back.

I read an article where the wce list manager said they hadn't put up on offer for LJ bc they were "waiting to see what the player wants" which tells me that he actually has no desire to go there

It'll be with futures. They're stacked next year.

Since when did "turning down the opening offer" become 'playing hardball'

Just looked at his wafl stats, seems like he played in reserves for most of the year, and wasn't particularly impressive. Was going at 3 goals a game in the WAFL before being picked up midseason so could be something there though.

Just checked and signed a deal till 2026 a couple months ago. If we target someone it would be someone like Henry or Meek or some other fringe player. I'd like Treacy but they've got no forwards so I can't see that happening. I honestly think Lobb would give us a better shot at a flag than Grundy too.

WC could be though. And plenty of times clubs don't get their desired return, especially when the player is out of contract. The clubs will reach a compromise. Jeremy Cameron went for 13, 15, 20 with two second round picks (32, 35) coming back. He was a proven player and a 9x leading goal kicker for the giants. I think LJ trade could be similar to that, except I think 15 turns into a top 10 pick next year instead.

A trade will be done, whether its suitable or not. He's already moved back to WA. We're not going to let him walk, so we'll just be going with whoever offers us the best out of freo or WC. At least he has the decency to let us get the better of two options.

He's been there plenty times before from what I've heard.

Is it just me or would WC would be crazy to accept that? Out: 2, Rioli In: 8, 10-15 Values rioli at nothing essentially.

Don't see this helping us. WC are going to want to keep a pick in the top 10 this year. Which only leaves their F1 and ports F1 on offer for us?

Last I heard (this morning) they'd had 6 or 7 meetings with us. Apparently a deal was getting close before the port pick swap but idk how accurate that is.

Just cooney throwing [censored] around

West coast ruled out using pick 2 straight for LJ. No way they give up pick 2 and 20 lol.

They have North and Carlton's F3rd.

7 is going with Bowes, who is only interested in Vic teams.

Realistically, who can WCE split their pick 2 with? Giants the only other team with multiple firsts but they have pick 3 so I don't see that happening. I also don't see WCE giving us two firsts with where their list is at. Even if they do split their 2nd, It'll be pick 7-10 this year + pick 20-25 next year. Vs Fremantle pick 13 this year and pick 9-15 next year.

This was always going to be their starting point. What more do they have to offer with what they've got? I suspect we'll get more thrown in there from the Logue trade.

Edmund said today around 700k/5yrs. But anywhere from 700k/5yrs-$1mil/8yrs has been floated around. Taranto was 750k/7yrs so probably similar. Unpopular opinion maybe but I think taranto is worth more. He's only 24 and has a b&f to his name and is just about to hit his peak. Jackson is all about size and potential which he isn't guaranteed to reach. I don't think it will happen but anything better than 13 and F1 with nothing going back would be a pleasant surprise. I have low hopes for this trade.

Zero chance we get a top 10 pick from fremantle. Especially now that port is after JHF. Unless wce come to the party and split their pick 2 then we're getting unders. And even if they did, it would be something around say 7, 24 (F2) vs 13, 10 (I expect freo to fall next year). I don't think there's too much difference between those two offers.

There's talk that freo have offered 13 and F1. Problem is we want that straight up, and they want something coming back. If we're happy with 13 and F1 straight up then I do think this deal will get done sooner rather than later.