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On 7/25/2022 at 12:22 PM, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Learnings 🤦🏻‍♂️

Heh, hang on, that's a word like philosofiser.

On 7/23/2022 at 11:25 PM, dazzledavey36 said:

Played 2 good quarters and then went missing in the 2nd half.

He had 5 disposals for the last two quarters. Still not doing enough for me.

This is one of those questions I've posed on the "stats" thread. Sparrow only played 65% game time.

It would be great to know what his time on ground was in the 2nd half. So when you say he went missing, maybe he really was. I don't know the answer to that but I would love it if someone did.

3 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

So little care. 
Im usually at work quickly browsing on my phone with fat fingers and I never check what I’ve typed.

If autocorrect doesn’t fix it. I ain’t.

Pretty much sums up most of your posts.

Waiting for another insightful come back.

1 hour ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Sparrow's previous week against the Cats produced a lowly rating of 1.175 DW.  Last week vs the Power 1.575  Both weeks way off his season average 2.822

If we do a very brainless / simple extrapolation and say he should in theory have a rating that's 20% higher vs the Cats (assuming the same game time of 80% vs Port).  That would result in a rating of 1.410 vs the Cats.  Still behind his match against the Power.  But as stated who knows the reasoning behind some of these numbers. Without knowing the role being asked, loading issues, niggles, quality of opponent, being soft tagged, applying some sort of tag etc, many of these numbers/exercises are pure speculation and in some ways a bit meaningless as we are flying blind!

With regard to the last part do you have/use Excel?  I'm happy to send a copy of the season averages for all players to date on all stats i collect including TOG% if you want to have a look through.  From there you can add your own list filters by stats to see highest/lowest in order to check rankings etc if interested.  Alternatively just go to Wheelo's site up there which looks interesting and appears to offer good drill down options.

Thanks DD I've PM'd  you  and I think your reply to my question is insightful and illustrates there is much we don't know and confirms some of the things I have often thought. It often irks me how some critics of players make broad statements about how a player has performed in a given game, based solely on somewhat arbitrary measures that aren't always put into context.

As a case in point the Bedford comments regarding his performance last week suggest he didn't do enough and to some extent that is vindicated in Melksham being retained in the side and Toby has been omitted. Melksham has been preferred, to my mind, because of the 7 tackles he layed and the goal he kicked. Toby had 69% game time and went at 100% . Melksham had 76% game time at 66% efficiency. But this is really a time and opportunity situation. Both players were part of the forward rotation but Bedford did a lot of working back supporting the defence and was involved in 2 important chains that meant Melksham ended up with a goal and a goal assist to BBB. Sometimes it's just lucks a fortune, right time, right place.

It's a different conversation but the talk of trading Bedford is way too premature. He has just turned 22 and is developing nicely. I would dislike Melksham being retained for another year and Bedford moved on as I really believe Bedford can do what Melksham has.

27 minutes ago, Demon Dynasty said:

Player watch:  Salem & Lever struggling after their returns and still a fair way off last season's average.  Harmes slipping slightly away over the last few weeks as well.

Love your work DD. I apologize if this has been covered elsewhere but what is the effect on the ratings if/when game time is taken into account? In relation to Harmes I've noticed in recent weeks he has been spending less time on the field. When you look at last years ratings compared to this year is there also a comparison against time on ground?

This applies to a number of other players as well. If we look at Sparrow; last week he had 60% game time  and a rating of 1.575. Against PA he had 80% game time and a rating of 2.023.

I've been watching the game time stats each week for a number of weeks now and at times have found some surprising figures for individual players. I'm sure some of this is tactical, some is match up/ hot hand based and some is load management.

Finally, is there anywhere I can find game time stats per player across the whole season?

Andy Maher has gone up in my eyes after he wrote on Twitter: “Daisy Pearce is a brilliant footballer, the possessor of a great footy brain, a gifted broadcaster, an insightful commentator and a high-quality and principled human being.”

T - Rex is a dinosaur who played back in the the Jurassic period. Yibbida Yibbida - that's all folks.

Der mut has recovered some of his small amount of credibility by saying he was misreported but imo still fails in the areas in bold above.

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

What does this mean? Serious question. If your preceding sentences are anything to go by it must be disparaging. But what exactly does it mean?

edit: I just googled it. There’s five minutes of my life I’ll never get back.
🙄

WCW, you may be related to my wife. She says all the time; "I don't understand boy humour"

1 hour ago, Winners at last said:

I've heard something about goats.

Surely only one?

On 7/9/2022 at 12:22 AM, WERRIDEE said:

It's great to see Laurie and Roo boy play well but I doubt any of them will debut. Weideman still must be in front of van Rooyen even though he's playing good football and Dunstan will come in for Clarry that's why we picked him up. I think Bedford is a certainty to be dropped been poor but the rest of the out of form players that have been mentioned will be given another chance to redeem themselves.

Please, please, please don't suggest, at any stage, that we will be Premiers.

The conditions on the night meant it would be difficult for anyone to really "shine". Having said that I'm starting to see what Jason Taylor saw in "Bill"

I've been watching all the Casey games including some live. Losing Jackson wouldn't trouble me much if we drafted Bell into the side. A bit like "Bill", he continues to build and develop and I can see a lot of a young Gawn starting to emerge.

19 minutes ago, redandbluemakepurple said:

I am tempted to write a review this week so I can entitle it "The Last of the Summer Wine".

Whilst a somewhat obscure reference, I think the reverence towards the ageing is somewhat misplaced.

Although, if all they can do is celebrate/ relive past glories that may be apt.

7 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Am I allowed to be a bit serious and ask that the opposition team be called by its real name or real nickname? The faux naming linking the opposition with a past event or a deliberate misspelling probably seemed amusing when we were 13 years old*, but today... really?

*If you are 13 years old, go ahead. You're excused.  

In my defence, I have stopped calling the Cats the "Handbaggers". On occasion I may have called them "Dads Army" but I'm really hoping the "Catatonics" takes hold.

6 minutes ago, Deeoldfart said:

Outstanding effort by the Army on Saturday.  I witnessed first hand how vocal they were in support of our mighty Dees. Although outnumbered (maybe) 500:1, they made themselves heard throughout the match, and at one stage late in the game, the MELBOURNE chant is all you could hear around the ground.  The Crows and their fans were ‘dead & buried’! Loved it!  Well done Army!

I haven't got involved in this thread previously but myself and Mrs Dw are known to many of the Army members. I think it's fair to say that the original poster of this thread has no ..... idea! I believe we have THE BEST cheer squad and supporters in the AFL. I've been to many games in the dark days when we have been outnumbered at home games  and yet have been the loudest. I watched the replay when I got back home and you could clearly hear the "Melbourne" chants over all others. We did our small part on the wing and the "Army" must have influenced me enough for a number of Adelaide fans around us to ask us to shut up. Every time they would try and get something going we would interrupt and counter them. It's fair to say that I can scare small children and Mrs Dw will cover her ears when I really get going. I do have a moderate side and only said quietly; look, they're all starting to leave!

5 hours ago, Nicko said:

He looks so happy at the Dees - I can’t see him leaving

“Asked after Thursday night’s win over Brisbane — in which Brayshaw starred in with 29 disposals — whether he’d remain at the Demons next year, Brayshaw told CODE: “I bet you’d like to know. I’m conscious of not giving everyone the headline. But I love the club, I love my teammates. That’s something that will take care of itself.”

https://apple.news/AJfX49D1MR7WLh5__yhVQEQ

 

 

I got stopped by a Freo infiltrator on Thursday night at the G who said both Gus and Jackson would be playing for Freo next year. I told him I'm not sure about Dogga but Angus isn't going anywhere. He had no idea (well he was a Freo supporter) that Gus is Godfather to George Gawn. I can't see how Gus could  possibly explain to his Godson that he left the Demons.  I'm pretty sure Brayshaw's partner Danielle Frawley would have a bit to say as well.

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Geelong, Richmond, Collingwood.. why do they always seem to have deep pockets and cap space? Surely they run out of those if year in year out target key players (on top coin) from opposition teams.

That made me laugh, aren't the Woods actually paying Treloar to play for the Dogs.

On 6/11/2022 at 1:02 PM, Dee-monic said:

Unlawful Assault and Common Assault

Section 23 of the Summary Offences Act 1966 (Vic) provides a summary statutory offence for ‘unlawful assault’. Unlawful assault charges are heard before the Magistrates’ Court and carry a maximum penalty of 15 penalty units (around $165 per unit) or 3 months imprisonment.

However, in the most serious cases of unlawful assault, a person may be charged with ‘common assault’. Common assault is a criminal offence that arises at common law in Victoria (R v Patton [1998] 1 VR 7). These matters are heard before the County Court and carry a maximum penalty of 5 years imprisonment.

A person may be charged with unlawful assault if they “unlawfully assaulted or beat another person”. Examples might include threatening to punch someone, hitting another person or spitting at another person. Charges of unlawful assault can be laid even if the victim wasn’t injured.

That begs the question; is there a "lawful assault" defence?

4 hours ago, 3183 Dee said:

Exactly - besides, as any discerning Melbourne supporter will tell you: weekends and public holidays at the snow are for the unwashed masses. Real Melbourne supporters go during the week, when there’s less riff-raff and a much shorter queue at Kofflers.

Sorry but I only ski overseas these days.

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

I know some very intelligent people who are easily sucked in all the time.

What is said and what is heard are often a difficult divide. I think that's where the term "Chinese whispers" comes from.

Having said that; I have no idea why the Chinese are being blamed but I'm sure someone will be outraged!

1 hour ago, willmoy said:

I may be wrong with this so be it but no one is perfect

 

Lets just stick with this shall we.

49 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

I thought it was Hells Bells. (Which I love). Has it changed?

It has, Mrs DW asked the same question last week. I thought I had heard it being used by another side recently ( not sure).

It could be as simple as the "Royalties" becoming too expensive.

25 minutes ago, Winners at last said:

Lyon's fashion idol is obviously the late Happy Hammond.

Only older members of this group will understand that reference.

The hat?

22 hours ago, rjay said:

45 touches and he was being tagged...

Not according to that media [censored] Robbo. Would love to ask that [censored] why 3 oppo players were played on Clarry. Simple answer; because nobody could negate him

I still wish he was taller.

Once we lose a game Salo comes in for Bowey.

Now where did I put that helmet and body armour?