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Makes more sense when I read it backwards...

I think that picture was of Selwood after Dunn gave him a 'I won't be playing against WCE' shot to the guts...

Did we push them over? Probably not. But we kicked them in the nuts in front of people that like them - so that'll have to do...

How did he get there? It's your hypothetical - in what reality could we have picked him up in the RL? Certainly not this one.

Give it up. It's not going to happen.

Personally, I would like to recruit very good players. Very good players are ok by me. I think if you asked Jones and Hogan and Tyson - they would also like us to recruit very good players.

Gotta pay someone.

Garland won't get much, neither will Grimes, Watts maybe a little more but Howe might get a first rounder from some idiot who wants to get 'people through the gates'... Frankly, I don't mind keeping all 4 of these players, my issue is replacing the 36th to 40th players on your list with players who are in your best 18. Trading Grimes for Pick 43 doesn't interest me. Getting Dangerfield in FA however...

Beat St Kilda at Etihad a week after beating the Pies on QB and that is four of the above... Some are more meaningful than others though. Beating Geelong down at Mordor would be huge, and of course beating Hawthorn, but Geelong are on a precipice - I would love to push them over...

Marked one off last year when we beat the Crows over there.

All I see is a talented kid.

Nah.

Better than 'Pet.' I said pet, I said love, I said darl, I said pet - get the effing ball! Actually, I don't mind that...

A clinic? Like an AusKick clinic? What an abstract celebration for a middle aged woman... I like it!

I have hope, just no time for the hype...

That's not to say I am not excited by the fact we look to be getting two mids who know hoe to get the pill. That's what we need. It's hopefully what we get.

I'm baulking at it. The way the 'experts' talk up these kids belies the fact that the junior footy infrastructure has never delivered players further away from being ready for AFL then they do today. The gulf for these teenagers to bridge is so massive that I really do struggle to get excited by the so called 'best players' that we have access to with ND2 and ND3. We just don't know what talents we are getting. I am hopeful, but the hype makes me nauseous...

It is hard to believe that adults, whose job it is to judge the abilities of children, have trouble doing so. Yet here we are.

Maybe the kids that say "Are there any real questions?" get extra marks...

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He's a kid. If he earns it, then great. Personally, I hope he doesn't play AFL in 2015. I want Pedersen to continue his form and give us something over and above what a teenager could give. And I want that teenager to learn how to play against men in the VFL.

Is he better? Or will he be better? Pedersen would be his little play thing for a couple of years if they went head to head. You say Pedersen and Fitz are depth? I say McCartin is depth too - until he proves himself to be more than that. We are a terrible team with a compromised list - there are going to guys being gifted games, there should now be an emphasis on properly preparing talent before exposing them to AFL. All I will say is that McCartin will earn his place in the 22 because Roos has a history of not playing kids simply because they are 'supposed' to be better than the journeymen that are currently in the team. I can see a team with Gawn, Hogan and Pedersen as tall forwards in Rd 1 being the best combination the list has at that present time.

They are not coming from the same base. Hogan has been at the club for two years now and had even had a season against men. McCartin will not be training until December and is straight out of juniors. He's excluded because that is what good clubs would do - they would have no need to throw the pressure of being a part of an AFL forward set up 4 months into being a player. If he plays Rd 1, my flabber would be gasted...

If Pedersen, Gawn, Hogan, and Fitzpatrick are available - I don't see why we would bring in McCartin. I have no doubt that he is a talent but he will not provide more than any of those four in his first game. He would have to have an exceptional pre-eason tournament to play Rd 1, even with Dawes out. I am sick of gifting games to kids.

Then pick the Talia / Fyfe / Gunston or Sidebottom / Beams / Hannebery of those effing drafts then... I feel like we have the most players to choose from and the least at the same time....