Temporarily Hopeful Demon

JVR has won me over in this half alone. He looks scary good.

Who?

I think we're missing ANB much more than Oliver tbh

People actually thought Oliver would win the brownlow this year 😅😅😅

Yep compare Oliver's game last Saturday to what he served up in our 1 point loss against Adelaide back in 2021. Not in the same [censored] ballpark.

Brownlows for me are one of the worst ways of determining that one player is better than another. Might as well say that Priddis is better than Bont if you want to use that logic lol.

So he's not a supporter just because he said that Oliver wasn't BOG for a side that we don't even support? Lol There was literally no hate in his post at all. Believe it or not, our club doesn't revolve around one player who isn't even with us anymore.

Fritsch gets back to kicking 50+ and AA contention. Don't know if that's 'outlandish' but I don't think many people are expecting it.

One of the last authentic commentators in the game

Was the best key back in the game bar none from 2020-2022

Oh give me a spell. The club bent over backwards for Oliver to an ridiculous degree. They let him take a pre-season off to help him work on his mental health and Gawn took him into his home while his wife was literally pregnant. It's not the club's fault that he's a massive man child who refused to get his act together.

People remember him for his kick in the GF but I also remember him for his purple patch at the end of 2018. He was in amazing form in that little period. I recall him absolutely tearing Selwood to shreds in that Elimination Final.

On the Melbourne bigfooty board it can get pretty brutal. Maybe not demonology levels, but it is pretty unfiltered.

Travis Head though, what an absolute gun he is

That's true, they did actually look far more dangerous when they abandoned bazball late in the third test

Bazball is officially dead

Bazball is the biggest myth in sport. I think Travball has more credibility and nobody uses that term in a serious context lol.

I totally understand the loss of Brayshaw on a cultural level but I still don't really see how his injury was the main reason why we didn't beat Collingwood. We lost that game largely on the back of poor entries inside 50 and inaccurate kicking. That doesn’t have much to do with Brayshaw. And it's also worth remembering that Collingwood were missing Nick Daicos that night. It's not as if they were without their setbacks as well.

Yeah honestly if he and Brayshaw were still in the side it would basically be a coin flip between the two

Wrong sport, but the Aussie cricket team fell into that trap with Steve Smith back in the day (though he's doing a decent job this summer).

Starc has been bloody phenomenonal this series. Carrying the bowling line up on his back in the absence of Cummins and Hazlewood. I think people don't fully appreciate how good this guy's been over his career. Will be badly missed when he retires.

Nope. Bont is 30 years old and is still among the best players in the game, while Oliver hasn't been anywhere near the top since 2022. He also has 7 AA selections while Oliver has 3. Danger is 35 years old and is still playing high quality football. His preliminary final against Hawthorn was out of this world. We haven't seen Oliver produce a game like that since god knows when. And as @dazzledavey36 said, those two players, along with Dusty, have the ability to go forward and kick multiple goals. Midfielders who can impact forward of centre are worth their weight in gold in the modern game. As good as Oliver was in his prime, he's always lacked that trait. Longetivity plays a big part in how I view players. It's why I believe Gawn will go down as far better MFC player than Oliver.

Pure insanity. He's not even in the same league as numerous contemporary players like Bont, Danger, Dusty, Franklin, Ablett Jnr and Gawn let alone Ablett Snr and Carey.

There were plenty of other players who helped us win the flag mate. It was a team effort. And I disagree he's our best player in a lifetime but that's for another day.

Utter stupidity of the highest order