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Spargo has played 100 games. Not sure how that happens if he is not an afl footballer

great player but he sounds like a risk given his knee trouble if we were in the window and thought he could help us to the flag ala ben brown, then different conversation. but given we're in a rebuild phase probably better to take our picks to the draft

I reckon Clarry is the biggest reason our culture is shizzen. He is making a contribution on the field but nowhere close to justifying his fat contract. we won't get much for him but if we can clear his wage and remove a headache from the club I'd support trading him. a shame given his stellar previous performances, but the club comes first. Can't be living in the past

Given Goody has called out the players publicly this is now a huge game. We'll know on Friday night whether he has lost the payers or not. Surely there will be a response.

We have mcvee, Langford, Windsor, Lindsay, kossie (hopefully) etc. plenty to build on. Important trade and draft period coming up for sure but we’re along way from returning to the dark days.

I like this thread. Starting to feel optimistic about this game as well. would be brilliant if we could win at that sh*tpile.

Just got the rising star nomination for the week Well done son.

As much as I have practically lost faith in Goody he will not be removed, if he's removed at all, until close to or at season end. I don't think a caretaker will suddenly change our fortunes (unless we have someone like Longmuir ready to parachute in) so there's no point removing him soon. Let's see how the season evolves. But jeez, the last 2 performances have been putrid so its going to take a lot of work to sort things out.

How are we going to implement a new gameplan which depends on proper skills execution when our skills are terrible. The list was built on contest and defence. we've started adding better ball users through recent drafts but there are still too many poorly skilled players on the list and our forward problems have been there for 3 years unremedied. thats on the coaches. i sincerely hope I'm wrong but we ain't playing finals this year or any other until year without major surgery to this list and coaching team

we really need James Jordons dynamic wing play now. just the man we need to improve our stodgy ball movement. we should never have let him go!

harley reids body language isn't good

jackson looked a meter out of bounds when he took that mark

can;t decide which of these two teams i dislike the most

Great news

I think we should cut JVR some slack. He still young and having the play the KPF1 role with rubbish delivery. definitely worth persisting with in my view

We’ll need to keep some experienced heads around to guide the youngsters but anyone else who we do not think will be in the team for our next flag should be on the table.

Hawks fans i know would prefer if there was less hype. they are still a young team so would rather keep the pressure off for as long as possible.

They recruited very well and have a coach that has devised a game plan which optimises the skillset on his list.

I think its both players and coach our skills are appalling. when the game was contest and defence we could compensate but now our glaring skill deficiencies are laid bare. we have started to address and added some very good users to the list but theres still plenty of work to be done. And goody looks like a dinosaur. so does Voss for that matter. the game has moved on from their gameplan. A new coach is badly required with the attributes to deliver a modern gameplan. I reckon Yze is the one that got away.

Goody deserves respect no matter what happens. He is a legend of the club for ending our drought. The cliff came quickly for us. This list isn't winning anymore flags so i hope the powers that be recognise this and make the changes necessary to set us up to challenge again in a few years time. And i know changing a coach is a big call but I think the game has moved on from Goody and i don;t think he has it in him to re-invent himself. I think a new voice is needed.

A competitive loss is the best I expect. On current form could well be a 50-60 point loss

toby bedford playing well

As much as i hate to say it, hawthorn are the real deal

things have been off for at least a year

robbed? we belted them out the gate of Optus Stadium