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An interested party must have sold him on getting first ruck minutes.

If Freo were a trading partner, I wouldn't mind Darcy Tucker coming back the other way...or Hogan.

Saad pretty astutely called them out. Ultimately sounds like he wanted the security of a longer term deal. With others already leaving, there was money there, as well as a need to avoid having too many walk out.

I think they rate Daniels pretty highly, unless he agitated for a move (no indication that he wants out), he won’t be moved on. Would think we’d be pretty keen if he were available.

Objectively, that’s probably what he is worth, but don’t see the point of moving him if it’s just at cost. Don’t think we’ll do it just for a third round pick.

Sydney have two academy players who are expected to go in the 7-20 range. GWS don't have much coming through the academy this year and are carried a points deficit from matching on Tom Greene in '19 draft. My view is that we could maybe get pick 22 from Swans for Pruess & some lower picks (they may just want to do a player swap), but any deal with GWS would more than likely have to involve a player coming back. Can't see any picks of value coming back from GWS.

I still reckon he comes back at some point, but maybe not this year.

Thanks mate.

I think @Demons11 had some mail around Jesse being available in one of the threads, any updates?

Also, Scott brought him in to add to a group he thought would compete for finals. Scott’s not there now and there is a different direction for the club. Polec is something of a luxury item in this scenario. It shouldn’t reflect as badly on Polec as it has done.

Looking at Geelong, I think they’re really looking to get with Danger, Selwood & Hawkins. So a short term ruck not only acceptable, but probably preferred. A rebuild is on the horizon, so probably not looking to commit longer term money. Goldy was unlucky not to be in extended AA squad this year and I could see 2 (possibly managed) years from him. This all relies on North making him available.

Geelong are another club on the hunt for a ruckman (escaped my mind earlier). Will be interesting to see what North do with Goldstein, he's potentially the best ruck that could change clubs.

I wonder what the dollars remaining on his deal are. Some likelihood given their list that there was some front end loading. Given T Mac is reportedly on a generous deal, I wouldn't be surprised if the differential between the contracts was relatively insignificant.

I don't love Polec as a player, but he has got traits we lack, and on the face of it could be a deal we could get done without a whole lot of fuss, which would allow us to focus on any other deals we want to get done. Would balance out our midfield mix (he would have approx 0 people in front of him in the queue for a spot on the wing opposite to Langdon) in a lower cost transaction. Let's get it done quick and move on to other areas of improvement.

Aaand I'm right back to year 8 Japanese class. Doozo yuroshiku, onegai shimasu.

This is the crux of it. Incumbent on buyers to satisfy us, and that will determine the value. He's potentially of greater value to GWS or Sydney than a late first or 2nd round pick. Sydney in particular have some academy kids rated in the 10-20 range, so probably happy to flip 22 for Preuss & our lower picks. We could probably then do some thing with picks 22& 23 if another deal came up. GWS on the other hand have a very average draft hand after working to get Green in, whilst ensuring they retained a higher pick (Ash). Their currency in trade for Preuss will likely be a player (don't know if we'd play the futures game with them, but they are probably looking at a ladder drop pretty soon). Sounds like Perryman has resigned, so realistically looking at one of Caldwell, O'Halloran or Hately as players that might fall out this year. We lose nothing by keeping him (Preuss hasn't agitated for a move), will only move on if it's a win for us I'd imagine.

If anything I view the reaction as similar to the one I had after we lost to Freo (& subsequently after last weekend). Desperate disappointment with where the club is at and a need to know that we are a genuine chance at winning the thing. I think the club has one season to prove the core of this list is supported to win it all, or those guys will all want to go where they are a greater chance at winning. Truck busted his guts this year and on occasion that was enough to get us over the line, but there were more than a few times where we were carrying too many. I get the frustration.

Wonder if we’re considering using him in a playing coach role to save spending under footy dept cap? Neat way to have an additional coach whilst potentially getting him to 300.

And nary a foot issue in sight, which is a massive bonus. I reckon he’ll have a massive 2021.

They should be asking these questions and should be just as frustrated as we are. They should believe that this list should be achieving more than they have.

Locked away contract wise (much like Zac Merrett...for now), so we have the leverage, but we'd want to make sure Clayton's happy before that gets close to expiry.

Just saw this. What's this all about then?

Was hard not to get that impression.

I think this is right. Gawnie posted a pic last night at the function ribbing T Mac for being in plain clothes (not even in the MFC polo). Results doing rounds on twitter, although the winner was probably going to be pretty clear to everyone ahead of the count.

Have figured we would throw everything at trade season for Goody (and the current list) in a last chance saloon, hail Mary. His last chance to use his Essendon connections as well. Go for broke, it's a good time to raid the Bombers, they are flailing.