Lord Nev

Nowhere did I say "nothing to answer for". My point was how overblown this was getting with every post. Let's move on hey mate?

Nil all draw, just like every internet argument ever...

Geez no wonder you get so upset about a little wrestling... Big issues hey

Viney has plead guilty. Now it's just about the punishment...

But good sir, what you have missed here is that I was highlighting your post as an example of the trend in posts about the subject. It was used as a reference point that I then build upon with facetiousness but it was a general observation with your post as a step in the process, rather than a direct retort addressing your post in a point by point manner. Your defence of "but my hyperbole was facetious and yours wasn't!" is pretty flimsy old chap.

Stretching it here. Green was being held and was then whacked, Collins was the one grabbing Viney and initiating the scuffle here. There was also no strike. It's not an accurate comparison.

This is sarcasm yes? Surely... References cited below... Collins initiated it. Viney was about to be off to the next play when Collins dragged him down by the jumper with two hands. It's a wrestle. The sad thing is, the outrage machine has well and truly kicked in now and he'll likely get a worse punishment than he deserves. The references to George Floyd by some today are appallingly bad, a ridiculous stretch and frankly pretty insulting to that situation and it's context.

Oh FFS. This incident gets worse and worse as every person tries to one up the previous one with the descriptions and comparisons... I heard Viney tried to rip out his voice box as the poor defenceless 194cm, 100kg small child was desperately trying to call out for help to his family who Viney had already abducted and had tied up in his boot... Deserves the chair. Nothing less. AFL should also strip as of our premiership points.

Not sure on this now, depends on if this vid from MFC is from yesterday or last week...

Don't know when, but a bit out of line to suggest it "smacks of insincerity" without being privy to the conversation.

Jones stayed in Melbourne apparently, so won't be him.

Jack's given him a buzz to apologize, so hopefully that helps...

Bit of a rumour Salem didn't travel to WA and won't play on Monday.

In the context of this incident it makes a fair bit of difference. Having your arm pressing down on someone's throat is FAR worse than on the side of their head.

So now we're dealing with a concussion are we? Far out mate, you are really reaching further with every post. The point is you keep changing what happened in the incident (which you've now done again). You first said: "Putting pressure on someone’s neck is dangerous." Then said: "if a Gold Coast player did that to Gus who has a history of head injuries" It can't be both of these things in this incident. You're just trying to make it sound worse than it is. And now it's apparently a concussion issue...

Because Collins pulled him down. You can just see the beginning of it in this frame...

Apologies, let me clarify then. Jaded first said: " Putting pressure on someone’s neck is dangerous." Then said: "if a Gold Coast player did that to Gus who has a history of head injuries" It can't be both of these things.

No, you're trying to move the goal posts now. First you said he was 'crushing his windpipe', then you said 'what if it was Gus with his head injuries'... Fair bit of distance between the throat and temple, so perhaps it's not me who needs an anatomy lesson. You're just pushing outrage rather than the facts.

Ummmmm....

What? Are we looking at the same video? Nowhere near his windpipe.