Gawndy the Great

Where was this in the first 3 quarters. Downhill skiers. Not convinced.

There has to be an royal commission into the umpiring tonight.

We are rattled and pathetic. Anyone surprised?even if we win this game - it’ll feel like the Carlton win. Empty.

No intensity so far

Thinking with your heart not your head there Billy. I think Oliver is great too but we all rated him based on his potential. His first couple of years were only amplified because of his raw talent and upside. He has been exposed as a poor ball user and has low metres gained. Doesn’t get a tag anymore because he is not damaging.

If we are going to be serious about maximising this current crop, we need to look to bring some serious outside talent, otherwise they will go to waste. We can’t trade out picks so what trade stock do we have? A tonne of inside mids. I would say anyone bar Trac is tradable and we would need to trade at least two. Oliver is the first to come to mind and would probably attract the most trade value. We need to look at it as he doesn’t have a great defensive game, he’s a less than average kick and doesn’t have great composure with ball also lacks creativity and vision. Brayshaw has already bought his ticket to Fremantle I reckon. We are playing him in the outside to protect him from any more concussions or injuries that would jeopardise a trade. Sparrow too raw - let him develop some more, but he’d need to show something this year as he’s been in the system long enough. Harmes is good as a defensive midfield - should keep. Viney is similar to Oliver in the contest just less skillful and is better defensively a keeper as well. Who we target is also important. Need to go after proven A grade talent. Skillful, pace and someone that can kick!

Apart from Libba they can all kick.

They look flat. But they still look like they are trying and have decent skills.

How many more adjustments can we make to this list before the ‘window’ of has passed?

This is a good call. Why we continue to reinvent Harmes as a running half back when we have Rivers coming through. Throw him in the best midfield to nullify. Harmes at times played off his man as well and starred in some games in 2018. id love to be a fly on the wall in team selection as Goody tries to sell some of his moves. Must be a great salesman or our whole selection committee are numpties.

He is not that quick as well. We need him in the middle.

Doesn’t have the tank.

And what’s your brilliant plan? Put Dunkley on the wing. Please.

Josh Kelly is rated one of the best outside midfielders going around atm and is in a club that will have cap issues. Name someone else that is more gettable atm.

Or was it Brad? Matt is a good ball user though, no?

Throw the book at Josh Kelly and Matt Crouch. Get rid of two of Brayshaw, Oliver or Harmes. Jones to retire. That will balance the midfield. Also do what you can to get in Papley or Elliot. Maybe trade The Mac brothers (Sydney) or Weeds for Elliot.

I dint think so. Coaches work hard for years to get a senior position. It is too late for him, could have maybe 10 years ago, but chose the media career.

I used to play golf with Plapps best mate. He told me that Goody offered his resignation when the players went to the aflpa secretly wrt to the preseason training camp (the one that Melb Storm do) without discussing with anyone at the club. From memory there were only a handful players who opposed (Led by Tmac, included Hogan, Salem and I can’t remember who else). His resignation was not accepted by the club obviously - wouldn’t go into much more detail.

Yep & yep.

Sorry I meant at the game that’s being played now.

Why do the hawks/blues get more supporters than we do?

Viney should have remained the captain. Don’t get me wrong Gawn plays his heart every week out but he doesn’t strike me as leadership material.

We do have to clean out some of our passengers and Bradshaw is the driver of that bus. Question is, is this list salvageable? Based on the passed couple of weeks you’d think so. But i will just never trust this club.

This was a game they knew they wouldn’t win. They subconsciously tanked. The performance was a reflection of that mentality. Even when we were shocking with ball use, we still weren’t this bad. It’s the only excuse I can muster.

I agree. I have left Jones alone to date but geez he looks off his best by some way.