So you ignore his body of work at the Crows. I say it was very ordinary, bar one year. That is what we recruited him based on and a lot of rar, rar about his leadership qualities. And he did not have a purple patch last year, just a bit of improvement for a few weeks on a poor underwhelming start where supporters saw we had recruited a loose third tall rather than a gun key back. reminds me of the Collingwood Cloke who dominated as a loose third tall who dominated for a few years more than a Mc Govern clone.