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I dispute your comment IRW that Tmac's form "suddenly collapsed" when he was moved forward. My assessment of the situation at the time was that Tmac's disposal was a real worry turning the ball over too often and at the time we didn't have a great forward line. Before He left Chip Frawley was played up forward and I think it was Roos that gave Tmac a shot at FF/CHF late in either 2015 or 2016 to bolster our attack. We all know about 2018 and 53 goals for Tommy but really this year I believe his first 2/3 of the season were just as valuable and that the injury was the main reason his form dropped for the later part of the season. However from where Tom was at 12 months ago he was still handy up forward as he needed a first or second defender to mind him. He helped out in the ruck up forward snd things like his bullock ing work and goal line strength were very valuable in our Finals. Sgsin he is training well and I expect Tmac to be named as CHF in Round1. Weid goes not compete like T Mac so it will be interesting to see what happens with JVR this season. Also Jacko and Maxy spent more time up forward as the season progressed and both made goal contributions and needed undersized ( vs Max) defenders to mind them or compete in ruck situations up forward. I like to think Tommy plays a role like Mark McClure did for Carlton in their three flags in 1979,81 and 82 with plenty of mediums snd smalls and a Mackay ( Jacko) floating plus a ruck in the mix snd BBB taking his tall extended arm marks that no defence can stop. Lets not fret about Tmac too much who IMHO played his role like many others and look at our scores since Round20 and results. Go Dees back to back or three peat or ??? Who knows.

Utter rubbish look at our last 6 Finals !!!

Don't really think VDB had any choice when push came to shove.

KDA sorry but you have not looked at our last 6 Finals. Jack Viney has been in our top 3/5 in all games except the 2018 Prelim Final where hardly any one played well. I also suggest you look at the GF again and see who got the ball out numerous times for our outside mids to break open the game and score multiple goals. Jack played one of his best games ever and has changed his role for the teams benefit. He looks to pass the ball on first grab he gets and no longer takes on the opposition and gets caught with the ball. I believe Dunstan will be valuable and get games as part of our midfield mix but form and injury will decide over the season who plays in the AFL team. Sparrow especially but Harmes and Jordan also deserve their spots if they are in form and fit early days 2022. But Dunstan is a good player who will be valuable in 2022 at various stages, But to say he will work better than Viney with our rucks and mids after the Finals is not correct as their chemistry was as good as it gets from Round 20.

You are very well catered for with my below par typing at times. I must keep you super busy at times !! Demonstone.

The more I see of Sparrow the more I like him. Reckon Luke will play as part of about 6/8 mids and a few others thrown in at times to vary the mix eg Kossie.

Boy at least they are not competing for the one spot!!!

?????sorry don't understand Demon.

Brayshaw NOT Bradshaw

Absolutely Wrecker but I feel he needs to be in the 2/3rd ruck given a leash to get around the ground. Stuck at FF he is not marking enough or bringing the ball to ground. Even try him at CHB and he will succeed. Think about his Finals games in 2018 and even his game vs Carlton best games ticking and around the ground. That's the same as Dogga plays when he is freed up not in the one position.

Agree 80,000 or sellout is possible !

Good summary of us at late 2021/early 2022.

It's the mix of players ALL are different and nearly every one has more than a few tricks up their sleeves that makes our Forwards difficult to match up against Also the opposition forget Track and the resting mids and rucks ( Dogga and Maxy) and that each player needs watching themselves. Plus that we have never not been able really to get the ball into our forward area and now with so many good players and our system working with the delivery from defence or midfielders it's impossible to stop. I would rate all our forwards and resting mids and rucks as at least 7/10 with Fritta Trac BBB Kossie Tommy all 8 or above. Any one on a given day can score heavily or star or bog or 3 vote Brownlow. And let's face it they are all DAMN GOOD FOOTBALLERS who are well coached. Plus they are asked to compete and tackle for their lives each game! We have very little to worry about our forwards compared to many other teams.

It's one day of the year. It's the flag unfurling after 57 YEARS. Let's not get too precious about these dates and times. Some will still complain re Sunday so be it. !!!

So correct Satan I made the same point on Page 2 of this post. Look how our goal scoring improved when BBB came in near the end of the season. Fritta Jacko and Gawny all scored more as more defenders were needed to mind these guys. Then you had the smalls plus mids at ground level!!

Part of the forward improvement from all players was the placement of Benny Brown at full forward and his competitiveness at marking and running around and leading. He made it much easier for all as he took the first defender. Fritta then got either the third or fourth defender depending upon whether Maxy or Dogga were resting or not. Maxy snd Dogga's total of goals scored improved also as the season progressed. What an inspired price of recruiting BBB was and he will be better in 2022 as he will be even fitter.

Agree Dieter. Also it is interesting how ANB has in virtually in ONE season of excellence and leadership forced himself IMHO into this list. Also proves the point how culture is so important in that he ( and others) from our current list ( and youngsters recently coming into the system) are going to be able to be judged having that advantage.. Graeme Osborne, Russell Richards, Jack Trengove Jack Grimes Colin Sylvia and many others did not have the advantage of the elite culture our Club has created in 2021, that Nibbler helped create and quite rightly should be so proud of his efforts and improvement this season. Really the question is who would you pick in the team in 1972 ( and now) in your team ? Barry Bourke, Frank Davis or Graeme Osborne in defence ? Or Osborne or Bourke in attack?. The requirement of say 80 to 100 games from 1972 on is logical but ultimately ability etc. should be the final determinant for selection. Incidentally Jonesy and Lord Nev are favoured in this selection process by length of service and sustained excellence over nearly a decade or much more. Is Nev more worthy of selection or going to be judged higher than Christian Salem? That's why the rest of this post is going to be so interesting and maybe polarising.. Perhaps a Team of the last 50 years (1972-2021) should be chosen once the 100 players have been listed. It will inevitably make a huge comparison with our team of the Century which is loaded quite rightly with players mostly from the Glory Years of the 50's and 60's and our 1939-41 and 1948 premiership teams. We await the next 80 players with interest and excitement. Over to you Deespicable.

"Saw him " Dstone ! eonder you don't like that in view of your cryptic background!!!

Hunty will never displace Bowey. Bowey has him covered in all footy skills and smarts. I like Hunty but he Hibberd and possibly Joel Smith are HB flankers or Back Pocket along with Tommo who is really a key position player a la Petty and Daniel Turner. But all are in the mix plus our new recruit Judd McVee for HB. Some are interchangeable but we really need only 3 talls as we don't get the ball on the ground from some sides. Bowey, Salo and Rivers are our best 3 HB flankers at the moment. IMO they are the 3 best footballers ie have more ability than the others. Same as Maysie, Rick ( Lever) are a step ahead of the others like Tommo Petty and Joel Smith as key defenders but gee not by that much on this year. Hibbo has the ability but is nearing his career end but his spot in the best 23 is still his to lose IMO. Gee it's hard to pick our best 23 and as one poster said our Casey team might well beat some AFL teams!! One small point , reckon Baker should start on wing as he is a winger with Taj on bench as he will rotate with JJ, Laurie and any other midfielders. Realise Taj has played other roles in WA like HB but see him as his best spot to develop is on the ball. Lets give these new players plenty of time to develop as thats the right they and the Club have early with our best 23 plus our extremely specific targeting of players for all positions. Can't wait for 2022.

Reckon both is the answer. JVR highlights package looks ver y promising in his one on one duals etc and his goals record up forward in the Colts. Dawvhim kick the winning goal for WA vs SA in the U 19 championship game at Optus as pre game entertainment but of course he meant nothing then to us. Since he had received good reports from JT etc and some WA footy people.

On last Thursday I contacted Membership Dept about Demon Shop Opening Hours and Answering the phone And in a quick discussion with the rep in the Membership Dept I asked re numbers and was told in the 38,000's. On George in the Outer figures under Membership Tally the best at this time of the year is 30,000 plus in 2019. We made 52,000 plus that year a record but this year I would assume we should/could attract between 25,000 and 35,000 more members depending upon early results. I would estimate ( on previous seasons numbers) that we could definitely get between 65,000 and 70,000, not far off Perty's 75,000 he has spoken of do often. I would also be especially interested in our Junior Membership total which gives an inside into future potential growth if we do attain a dynasty (ie. sustained success) over the next decade.

Who JVR or the kid commentator?

Weid should not be played as full forward. He should be a second ruck and resting forward. Really if we lose either Maxy or Jacko through injury. He plays better running around and the 2018 Finals and his Carlton game this year proves that. Or send him back to CHB at Casey and use Harry as a forward now Tommo is back. We have options let's make the best of them all for each player and the team!

Is Jacko too small? We can always get good rucks from the Trade period .

Well the Saints weren't happy with what they got and you'd have to be a very FICKLE Dees fan to drop Tom Sparrow on his GF form. Everything clean fudnt fumble and his disposals were great plus his kicking to our boys brilliant. Tackled well also.Developing nicely don't harm him mentally after his best game ever. Not sure Tommo will walk in. Has done very strong competition and we don't want to go too tall. 3 talls are fine for Dogs and it's a good 3or 4 inc. Hibbo Hunty Joel Smith and if Tommo is recovered he might be a chance but not the fourth tall for is not needed. Let Tommo get used to match play agsin and he will have his time. Same with Dunstan great pick up but wait for his time also.