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Chair ban at AFLW (now overturned)
kev martin replied to Katrina Dee Fan's topic in AFL National Women's League
When I've been out at Casey, I feel is was necessary to have a seat. Many sat on the ground. The people in chairs set themsevles at the back of the groundee's. I found the people who stood did it a few times infront of the seated and those on the ground. Let the people work it out. They aren't getting enough patrons to make a difference as yet. -
The big games are here. No build up to the Woobles game, flew under the radar, didn't do us much good. Different to this one. Pressure form many angles. Tribunal, possible straight sets again, not quite right forward area, hurt mates and families. Great we get another look, unlike 12 other teams. Plenty to get right, though our backline is a rock. We will play with passion, hoping we do it smartly, and not to the point of exhaustion or trying too hard. I am nervous, but that is what finals seem to bring up. Go Dees.
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Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
I thought he moved the right way, opposite to the balls movement. If number 4 was playing the ball, he would have gone to his right. Gus moving diagonally away from the ball means he clears from the impact area, if the ball was being played at. Number 4 was tracking Gus. Gus moved the correct way so as to avoid a collision, if was expecting the opponent to attack the ball. Number 4 launched before he knew where the ball was heading, as shown by having to reach out when in Frisbee mode, therefore he jumped into the players line and had no idea where the ball was. Football action (haha), and if so then an unrealistic attempt, causing concussion. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
Is any of the other AFL fans that are not MFC, upset about this outcome? The sake of the game is in the balance, as duty of care has been relegated to, there are times when hits to the head are not sanctioned. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
I interpret it as, solely attacking the ball (give no consciousness to anything else). Do that and collateral all over the place, and no consequences to self. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
If you are playing the ball, a duty of care to those around you is now unnecessary. The defense of in the motion of a "football act" has a precedence. As Number 4 said, he did not take a collision with Gus into account. Will give Viney, Sparrow and other inside bulls a licence to not worry about the pain they inflict. Sad day for CTE outcomes. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
I reckon it's more straight line the ball and the player is collateral damage. Duty of care is out the door in a football act. No More tackles, to risky for a chance of suspension. Those rucks are going to be dangerous places to tread. Where the ball is, missiles are coming through. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
Dream of 12, and it's Yippee, Yahoo. 2023 and number 14. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
There are plenty of teams to play for in the adapted game, of 9 on 9. I understand your sentiment, I found the area to have a very diverse cultural mix. Get stuck in one group and it is like the others don't exist. That area has it all, up to you to look. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
There are plenty of teams to play for in the adapted game, of 9 on 9. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
That is not true, they have an AFL hub up at Cavanbah (a couple of k's out of town). Perhaps you feel that way because of the Gold Coast link and area, -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
Extremely skewed, nothing about the optics, or the spirit of the game. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
In the guise of a football act. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
The Emperor has no clothes on, but the Tribunal will buy the duck that isn't a dinner, leading to us having the motivation to get to the GF. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
"Gleeson: The duty of care is informed by what is reasonable, not the expectation of the remarkable. Maynard won't be found careless if we find he simply failed to do the remarkable." Wow, if he acted reasonable before he could do the remarkable, then he wouldn't be a concussion causing projectile. Duty of care before he launched. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
"Ihle (Pies) says Maynard's hands go to the right, but his centre of mass does not move to the right. He says at this point a collision is "not inevitable" and "not even likely". It is Brayshaw's movement inward that changes this, he says." That's going a bit far. No collision, WOW. From the enforcer, LOL. If he followed the ball, and Gus falling a bit right, he wouldn't have done his job (to hurt). -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
"Ihle (Collingwood): He's jumped off two legs. That's allowed him to jump higher and it slowed his forward momentum without completely removing it." Why does he want to jump higher, he needed to go right, if he was playing the ball. Higher, just has him coming down on Gus with more force. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
Of course, Gus is the defenseless one, and ball carrier. Number 4 was the instigator of the collision. I've always heard the umpires saying they protect the person with the ball, time for the Tribunal do do that. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
No, not jump at Gus, jump at the ball. If he had done that, then he would have gone across the path and lower of Gus. There was an intention to collide as he braced, and the biomech expect, said his brace must be premeditated. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
Defenseless player is it. Acts of footy such as marking and spoiling, the players are aware of contact. When kicking the ball, your body is open, not much you can do to mitigate the impact. The entire collision and its outcome is determined by the one without the ball. Basic umpiring, protect the player with the ball, nether alone the Tribunal, as it must stamp this out. -
Just saw some footage out of Casey training, ch10 news. Gus doing some light running and getting embraces from various players. Love the love. Brother said, "he needed to be in a dark room at the same time last concussion".
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Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
Must be, decision within that period of smother to impact, cannot be conscious. I would argue for the 2 seconds leading up to the acts, that premeditates the movement. He consciously wanted to hurt and prepared his body to execute. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
No duty of care, as a result of a football act. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
"Biomechanist: Based on the numbers and research, it's difficult to conclusively say Maynard would've been able to make any conscious decision to reposition his body." So his unconscious decision was to turn his shoulder into Gus's head. Should have premeditated it, and known that the collision would occur and be able to mitigate it based on duty of care requirements. -
Maynard must get at least four weeks
kev martin replied to leave it to deever's topic in Melbourne Demons
That for me is the most disappointing thing. It will follow number 4, for a long time. Cannot apologise to family, as he does not contrite. CTE maker as an enforcer. Time to be a man , and apologise.