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Losing this match last year, should ensure that the Demons are up and about. A win would put us two games and 20% above fifth with only 7 games to go! Go Demons!

Good question I have wondered the same. I think Laurie Fowler won 2 or 3 B& Fs and while a pretty good reliable player, was not remotely in Flowers league. It seemed unless Flower played a brilliant game his normal games that were still way better than others weren’t recognised, is my only theory! He was brilliant, the only reason you would go watch the Demons for about a five year stretch! It used to drive me crazy Keith Gregg winning multiple Brownlow and flags compared to Robbie’s one finals series. Flower also played some unbelievable interstate football where he showed just how brilliant he was surrounded by decent players.

I’m sure a Tassie team could spend just as much on Blundstone or UTAS and have a similar magnificent stadium, vs being told to spend $750M! Just a furphy from the AFL to take eyes of the main question. Team or no team in Tassie?

When are GWS building their new stadium?

Corn doesn’t like any deal over 4 years in length, he has said this too many times, no matter the player! Risks of long deals: - player gets bad injury - player loses form - player loses interest or motivation - pay too much, that you have to wear for a lot of years Benefits: - lock in great player to your club (Clarrie, Trac, Salem, Viney) - shows great commitment from player & club, that will positively impact other players - pay slightly unders initially and over the term. Example if Oliver is $7m for 7 years - Yr1 800 - Yr 2 850 - yr 3 900 - yr 4 1m - yr 5 1.1 - yr 6 1.15M - yr 7 1.2m vs 3 yr deal paying $1.1 or $1.2M per year Long term deal frees up $3-400k per annum over those first three years that helps keep Brayshaw & Jackson Basically long term deals are good for club and player unless you are desperate to entice players from other clubs e.g. Polec - North, or club gets bent over Grundy - Pies, or club just gets it wrong. Demons long term deals have all been sound: - Trac gun player, best 5 in league - Clarry best player in league as judged by coaches votes last year and every chance to do it again - Salem underated by other club supporters, but GF just highlighted how good he is the above 3 great mates that commitments positively influenced by one another - Viney stayed for unders due to 5 year term Congrats to Demons list management and fully expecting Brayshaw & Jackson to sign.

I feel like Max Smart on Get Smart when he gets told he’s a field agent, shouting under the cone of silence: “I’M SO HAPPY”

Sensational news, just a fantastic player! Demons committing to longer deals for players, so certainty for both parties, players accept a little less that will help keep another decent player at the club.

I would go no change this week. Then Max in Weid out. The other change that I would consider in the forward line is one of: - Petty tried forward Tomlinson back - Van R forward (I think part of putting him in ruck might be helping him be ready for bash and crash of being forward in AFL team) - Tomlinson forward - Hunt forward The other aspect of the team that’s interesting is with Rivers and Hunt both not in the team, if either make it back into the backline. Hibberd was terrific on Cameron the other night and his proven ability to play on guys like Dusty and Dangerfield is a major benefit, if he maintains current form.

Was captain for a number of years at Crows so can’t be all bad. You would have to check with players on what he is really like!! Idvtake him ahead of Gunston. Getting him for 2 years wouldn’t hurt from a forward line perspective.

I would be delighted to play the Pies in any match during the finals! Home & away a different scenario!

Someone else paying his salary. No thanks!

They are no guarantee to make the finals!

Agree, Mitch Brown dominates at VFL, yet can’t make the leap to AFL. Just highlights the gap between VFL and AFL that he can’t hold down 3rd tall forward position in AFL. Still having Hunt, Tomlinson, Dunstan and Rivers in the twos provides some depth for our Demons! Even though Rivers has lost form. JVR will be a chance next year after another pre season. I vaguely recall saying something similar about Bowey last year, next week he got called up and the rest is history!

You can lead a horse to water but can’t make it drink! The impact of loading and associated results are obvious to see, if you want too look! There are many other factors: - mid game injuries, particularly as we lost a few defensive talls (mentioned multiple times during Freo, Swans & Pies matches) - injuries in general - across a 22 game season all teams will have natural ups & downs. If we have a down day against another team having an up day, losses will happen - some teams match up well on other teams - Lady Luck, sometimes things go wrong, from bounce of ball, umpiring decisions, goalkicking, mid game injuries - a simple favourite on this site is effort, yes due to length of a 22 game season, so can’t be up every week But when all said & done, Demons and Goodwin know that finals is a different season, we’re been preparing for over a month with loading to be ready to be at our best in September. Injury willing and a little bit of luck, Thursday showed our best is still better than anyone else, so Demons are putting themselves in position for a big crack at going back to back! This is why Max won’t play against Crows! Go Demons, fingers crossed we’re on the way to back to back!!

Caro should be left alone so she can continue sucking lemons! She will never apologise or admit she is wrong about anything! Total waste of time and space!

They started well in the 1st and we destroyed them in the 2nd! Understand the loading (due to all your & Vipercrunch comments) and how teams can stop to a crawl in the last, as Demons did against Pies, Swans & Freo. But we took them apart in the 2nd. Comparatively we were in front of Freo, Swans & Pies at half time, and lost multiple talls mid game against all three, so structure fell over and added impact of loading, led to losses. It was an exceptional Q2 similar to what we did to them in last years QF.

The umpires can shove it Neal Hipwood Daniher their love children!

Agree with many- Gawn, Turner replaced by May, Weid! But like the little bit of left field thinking with Hunt, he can kick goals, has speed and defensive capabilities to put pressure on opponents backline. Leaves us a little small but only other alternative is Van R.

At least they got one out of the most wanted players list!🤦🏻‍♂️

Data without proper analysis is worth zip!

I would say opinion off the back of what the Demons who got it right last year, did in the finals with three big wins! Bvegas 4-9 should have been a 10 goal win! Thats why you often see teams who just make the eight win a first final then get smashed by teams who finished 1-4 but lost first final. Dogs being an outlier in 2021 as until last round they were finishing 1-4. The trick is getting your loading right, finishing top 4, and injury happy!

Sorry for this but I can’t help myself! He definitely should join the Demons, as Melky could be his minder and would knock De Goooey into shape!! Also he is De …………….Gooey!

I read it as if you don’t get your loading right, no point making the finals, as you won’t win it!

Yes, if commentators came out and said not much to see in Demons losses, all were really due to loading, in game injuries to two plus talls, Trac ill and some team illness, Demons still well out in front. Versus nowhere near as appealing for the AFL - how close is the finals/flag race - 10-12 teams in it! Pies/Blues etc can all win it!!

Our best is still the best by a fair margin! No team has got close to what we showed in last years finals! While we haven’t played at that level this year, at least we have proven we can do it before, and once we come out of our loading, and have a good injury run, the rest of the comp will need to catch us! Leave MFCSS behind, just go back and look at last years finals again!!