YesitwasaWin4theAges

46 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Out:

- our forward line coach

- our backline coach, 

- our skills coach,

- our game plan coach.

Fix them and we will be good!

 

Aren't they [censored] hopeless the lot of them.

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Wow, just wow. That is massive. Our season just took a right hook to the jaw from no-where and has us flat out on the canvas with the ref counting.

You can look for positives if you want, and I may do some of that but this game was purely a yes/no question: Did you win or did you lose? The result was not good enough, I don’t care they we made a mad flurry. Only a fool would judge a team based on 3 minutes of football. We were not good enough. I question this team’s ability to wrestle back momentum when the game isn’t on our terms, as soon as the other side gets a run on with pace it seems to stay like that all day ala QBH. A lot of people here are saying the Roos effect on this side has passed and there is something to that. We’ve gone from being a difficult side to score against to a side that every time the opposition goes inside 50 scores. 

Today reminded me so much of those games a few years ago against the Saints when they would just burn us out the back with pace every time. It became so predictable, St Kilda win ball at half back, quick possessions through midfield and then hit up leading target/or open goal over the top to a runner. We never had an answer for it and looked pathetic in even trying to stop it. You just can’t have that happening repeatedly if you’re a finals side, no way. 

For the second week in a row we botched selection IMO. The forward structure from the get-go NEVER WORKED. At one point I saw Weed and Hogan almost standing next to each other on the 50! Never looked right, had little defensive pressure (once again cried out for Garlett or someone) and had 2 go up and spoil each other often. I looked at our forwards inside 50 at the Punt Rd end in the first quarter and honestly thought to myself that this could be a tough day to score. It was a sickening feeling. 

Petty had a honker. He is not the first and certainly won’t be the last to have a nightmare first game. ANB lacked urgency early and just didn’t cut it. Hannan was no-where, T-Mac must have been hurt. Hogan I honestly don’t know what the answer is there, I’d say push him up to get some touches but it just seems like his quiet games are real quiet. 

We want to play a quick play on handball run through the middle style, which I like. But on days like today we can never execute it or don’t have the pace. We also can’t seem to hit basic skills which turn into turnovers that almost always cost us.

The setup in the middle just looks like a bunch of bulls at the gate. No composure and just blazing away with kicks. Beat us on constested ball and that’s pretty much it. We’ll never win it back with uncontested ball we just don’t have the speed  or the spread. 

Fristch is one positive. And as good as he’s been around the ground I have wanted to see him up forward a bit more, because this is what he gives us. Hibberd worked hard all day and Viney eventually got busy. Max kept us on the game. The rest just didn’t come to the party.

This one hurts. I’m deeply disappointed with his result, as I’m sure everyone else is. The Port game was a terrible result and it hurt but this one just stings like citric acid in the eye. That good old feeling of losing an unloseable game and the butt ugly feeling of not wanting to show your face in public that follows it. Thanks MFC for bringing us back to where we apparently belong. The new Richmond, here to stay. 

How can you find positives out of today.

Our season is over pal, you dont recover from loses against garbage like that.

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

Maybe somewhere in all there he had an idea.  Tbh its not working and either his mentors and/or his under coaches haven't the 'stuff'

But push comes to shove it's Goody's game....and it sux

We are puss, bunch of front runners. Every friggen team develops all these kids so quickly. Why is it such a struggle for us? 

18 hours ago, DV8 said:

Jeffy, Kent, Vince, Tyson,  there has to be over $1.5M per year, amongst them?

Get rid of the lot of them, this year and next are done. Goodwin out.

1 hour ago, Deestroy All said:

Goodwin must hate Paul Roos. 

He took any bit of defence Roos instilled in us and [censored] it right off. 

Ive been saying it since he got the gig, we are so unbalanced as a team now. Too attack centric, we leak like a sieve.

We are so easy to coach against, he's a flawed coach with a flawed game plan.

This isnt a journey its a [censored] horror show Goodwin [censored] weak players [censored] weak.  How can you possibily manage to lose to a rabble like st.kilda

[censored] disgrace all respect lost.

4 hours ago, DV8 said:

... sort of what i'm hoping for.   We have to make spaces for renewal.

We have to find ways to get back in, and we need to release some salary cap space, so we can work things.

This comment isn't about jeffy specifically, but about a few players Inc: Jeffy, Kent, Wagner, Frost, Vince, Lewis, Tyson, JK-H, Hunt, McKenna,

Vince and Jeffy there's 1m saved.

1 minute ago, DV8 said:

Pretty much, i think W4tA.

Viney has stipulated only recruit those with a hard competitors nature..  It is paying off, as to where we are at now.  They are building a brand new culture that we takes us forward for the next 10-15 years, with the path they are on.

 jeffry either has a dip or he doesn't.   pretty simple.

 

I think he's gone.  we will take what we can?

Gone DV8. Interesting to hear everyone's thoughts on it. No point having him around if Jeffy ain't going to play.

We need to get back into the draft and this might be the brain trusts thinking.

Judging by his non involvement over the last few weeks and the drafting and emergence of Young charlie, is this the end of Jeffy?

5 hours ago, —coach— said:

That’s all nice, but how about tinkering with the way we deliver the ball inside 50. We don’t have any injuries there so you would think we would have that sorted by now.

Simple fact is that we lost the game in the forward half last week not the back half

If we friggen could hit some one on the chest inside 50 that would be great. How bout an articles on inside 50 delivery and the art of run, carry and draw in a player instead of bombing in to a crowded fwd line.

12 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

It's a bit more than that. The opposition clog up the forward line to dry up our scoring options. We haven't figured a way around it.

Power had 2 spares behind the ball last friday night conceding the ball into defensive 50 we where that on top, but kicking it to a 1 on 3 situation.

There were numerous times where instead of blazing away we had 2-3 players running in unison where they could attacked that space, shepperd and spread until a defender actually committed to them. could have easily resulted in 5-6 scoring opportunities from 30 meters out.

Power had 55 rebound 50's it has to be a record, no composure to hit up lead targets but they have to be presenting.

This is why i struggle with ANB forward he doesnt have that natural Forward instict like a Jeffy, Melk, Fristchy,Hannan or Spargo.

Its a No from me at the moment, if we can turn over a big team at the G then i will change my mind. That test is coming up against Sydney in a months time.

Until then we are what we are flat track bullies. I hate it but it is what it is.

Our team dynamics need to changed the right balance needs to be found times running out but it can be done.

So the key to winning games from now on in is to keep the attendance under 40,000.

We might have to hire some stand over men to keep the official attenance officer in check? and keep the figure under 40k even if its 50k or 60k?

1 hour ago, small but forward said:

I’d argue it’s the other way around Wise.

Jesse looked like he’d eaten 2000 hot dogs on Friday night and couldn’t move.

I reckon he's injured, just not even attempting to go for marks. Shoulder, Elbow, Wrist who knows but he aint right.

This cant be the same player that we saw in the first 2 months of the year.

The midfield minutes have to dry up now and get back to what he does best thats being a Key Power Forward.

To be honest the Forward dynamic in our 50 needs to be re-jigged, We are crying out for a specialist Small Forward (Jeffy) to crumb off Tmac and Hoges maybe part of the reason he's out of form.

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Get Dermott down to the club NOW to forward coach Hogan. 

Pay him a good wage, he knows exactly what Hogan should be doing, as he was the same player 30 years ago

GET Dermott MFC

4-6 goals a game we should be getting with our i50 count

68 last week and Hogan was unsighted!!!!

MADNESS..

68 to 39 inside 50's and lose is complete MADNESS.

Young spargo unlucky.

Out: Vince, T.Smith, ANB,

In: Petty, Weideman, Garlett

Not after Lever has fallen down We were playing with a small backline on Friday Night and got exposed with limited entrees.

I dont know much about Young Petty but if he is in good form at Casey and can hold down the 2nd tall defender roll we bring him in or Frosty.

One of Vince or Lewis has to make way.

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

I thought the year they were on the gear was when they beat us by 140 points?  

Same here

On 6/24/2018 at 2:40 AM, WERRIDEE said:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-23/analysis-how-demons-can-save-their-season

Nothing that hasn't been said before.

Stop bombing.

Vince and Lewis don't work, need Hunt

Too small down back, need Petty.

Need an opportunist forward, need Garlett

Petracca has to lift.

Any others? Thoughts?

 

Like ive said many times on this forum we play dumb footy. For a team that wins so much ball our entry into 50 is that of a bottom 4 side.

We do not play and can't play when conditions are slippery, we are a dry track team. All our losses this year bar the Geelong game have been in Wet slippery conditions( Haw, Rich, Coll, Port).

Our Forward line is a mess at the minute, its just so dysfunctional. How Jeffy is not play has got me stumped, Without Tmac i dont know where we would be.

We are passenger city atm Petracca, Hogan, ANB, Lewis, Vince, Harmes. I hope the penny drops soon.

Out. Vince, Petracca, ANB, T.Smith, Lewis(Hogan last chance).

In. Petty, Garlett and anyone else thats interested.

Lewis and Vince cant play in the same team anymore.

Just now, Demons11 said:

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1 when he marked on the line.