21 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Happy for trade of Garlett for pick 50 as well. Pick-anything actually

Yep got Gold Coast written all over him.

We need to service our needs like we did in the Lever trade, needed a intecept defensive player so we went out and got one.

I'd take Kelly over Whitfield but both the type of player we need, that would be a cherry on top type outcome.

Shiel wouldn't be servicing an immediate need like Lever, just stockpiling a need we already have. 

11 minutes ago, boydie said:

Not quite.

He's not qualified to be a free agent based on a service, if Melbourne were to delist him then yes he would become a free agent and go wherever he wants.

If Melbourne have offered him a contract which it seems most likely seen as he wasn't delisted, then a trade must be completed for him to move.

If no trade can be completed then he can nominate for either the national or pre-season draft where anyone can pick him with their pick.

The club rates him, but he must have been told no midfield minutes are available, only see him as a small forward.

59 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I can understand the sentiment but you need to consider what we offer vs the Saints.

He can refuse a one year or a one plus one deal from us (would you offer more) and stand out thus allowing himself to be picked up by the Saints in the second draft (whatever it's called these days). No one is likely to poach him.

This is one where we can and need to be generous just like Freo were with us and Balic last year.

 

Hey Jimbo, I see where your coming from but in all fairness you couldn't possibly compare Balic's situation to Kent's

It might end up being that way tho.

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Kent isn't worth more than their pick 57.

Are you being fair dinkum? We'll go out of business with thinking like this.

3 hours ago, The Chazz said:

Be surprised if we don't get offered, and accept, a 3rd rounder for him.

I hope the club aren't to generous and don't take anything higher than a low 3rd rounder. 

3 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Really?  We paid around mid 20 for Melksham and Hibberd, and I know which ones I MUCH prefer...

There good for it the saints, he's a goal sneak.?

1 hour ago, Steno said:

2013 = 15games

2014 = 13

2015 =4

2016 = 20

2017 = 6

2018 = 5

So averaging less than 9 games a year for the last four years... that ain't equal second round: and that's before you look at his talent.

3 year contract offered? If you are Dean Kent, you have to take it with open arms. If you are Melbourne, you would (hopefully) not be offering 3 years based on above!!

Has to be a 2nd to 3rd round pick 25-35, he's a quality goal sneak who's had an unlucky run, plenty of football left in Kenty.

Sad to see him go.

5 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

Freo put their foot down last year with GCS and demanded pick 2  for Weller or there was no deal. GCS eventually folded and paid pick 2.

Melb does the same. If Jessie wants to go, fine but we get what we want. Picks 4 & 5 or no deal. Dont except 9 & 10

Melbourne dont have to do a thing, just sit back and wait.

Have a back up plan if Hogan says he wants a trade, but we want the lot if a trade goes down.

Ready made player aged 24, the peak of his career. Pick 4,5 and Brayshaw have to play hard ball, we hold all the cards.

Remember we dont need to trade him, how much do Freo want him?

Answer: BAD

15 hours ago, Demon17 said:

And its a smart 10 year decision. Maxys 26 ish. Preuss is 23. This will add 3 years on maxys playing life and give our gun midfield team top service for that period too.

If Max keeps going and playing as hard as he has, he'll be done by the age of 30.

Very smart bit of business by the recruitment committee.

2nd rounder please, was crucial in our win in the west in round 22.

Be strong Demon Draft Committee.

Loved watching Pedo over the last few years, had great delight in watching him take massive grabs around the ground.

Great clubman and person to boot.

#Peeeeddddooooo

Thanks for the memories.

He's a toss bag that Denham.

23 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

If only Brayshaw had played those first 3 or 4 games! 

F@#hf

10 minutes ago, Demonland said:

He'll win a Brownlow if they ever double their win count. 

It's a disgrace, anything to keep them relevant.

How has Cripps got 17 votes in a team that's won 2 games for the year?

11 minutes ago, hells bells said:

Playing two rucks next year...

First use for the whole game, not for just 80%, i think its [censored] genius.

1 hour ago, SFebes said:

It makes absolutely no sense to me this, unless one of our big guys are on the move. We need a backup sure, but this guy could be first ruck at probably 8-9 clubs. Something is cooking in the kitchen I feel. 

agreed something definitely cooking, i think its sensational.

I think Goody has to reevaluate his footballing philosophy regarding ruckmen.

Throughout his tenure, he has favoured 1 Specialist ruckman, i think we need to take alot of stock in what happened to Gawny in the Prelim.

He got worked over by two decent ruckmen, the Lycett and Vardy combo destroyed our biggest asset. 

The time has come for the coaching to reassess the value we place in our Ruckman.

3. Harmsy 2. Viney 1. Jetta

6 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

Yep, 19 points.

They did, they sure did, I watched the last quarter of both games due to work commitments.

What is the deal with Jeffy? Has he still got 1 year left on a deal? any takers?

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Norwood lost as well??

Yep, 19 points.

What a poo house weekend, all things Red&Blue well and truely [censored] up the bottom. The Dees, Casey and Norwood

Bad things come in threes, well they sure did.

#FML

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

Jesse Hogan

Born:12-Feb-1995 (Debut:20y 51d Last:23y 181d)

Height:195 cm Weight:100 kg

 

Year	Team	#	GM	W-D-L	KI	MK	HB	DI	GL	BH	HO	TK	RB	IF	CL	CG	FF	FA	BR	CP	UP	CM	MI	1%	BO	GA
Totals			71	32-0-39	685	459	393	1078	152	81	13	110	17	174	20	132	81	37	14	458	629	124	183	87	5	44
Averages			17.75	45.07%	9.65	6.46	5.54	15.18	2.14	1.14	0.18	1.55	0.24	2.45	0.28	1.86	1.14	0.52	0.20	6.45	8.86	1.75	2.58	1.23	0.07	0.62
2015	Melbourne	1	20	6-0-14	178	134	83	261	44	19		25	1	45	5	20	17	6	5	118	139	47	52	22	1	12
2016	Melbourne	1	21	9-0-12	206	149	104	310	41	33	4	29	8	47	1	39	19	10	6	123	189	43	63	24	3	12
2017	Melbourne	1	10	5-0-5	91	51	51	142	20	6		15	2	26	3	19	9	5	3	55	87	10	21	9	1	6
2018	Melbourne	1	20	12-0-8	210	125	155	365	47	23	9	41	6	56	11	54	36	16		162	214	24	47	32		14

 

 

Josh Kennedy

Born:25-Aug-1987 (Debut:18y 255d Last:31y 28d)

Height:196 cm Weight:103 kg

 

• 
   

Year	Team	#	GM	W-D-L	KI	MK	HB	DI	GL	BH	HO	TK	RB	IF	CL	CG	FF	FA	BR	CP	UP	CM	MI	1%	BO	GA
Totals			220	112-2-106	1887	1296	651	2538	559	306	52	519	15	486	38	467	254	227	69	1190	1370	323	591	259	15	119
Averages			16.92	51.36%	8.58	5.89	2.96	11.54	2.54	1.39	0.24	2.36	0.07	2.21	0.17	2.12	1.15	1.03	0.33	5.41	6.23	1.47	2.69	1.18	0.07	0.54
2006	Carlton	5	9	1-1-7	36	32	16	52	5	4	1	11		15	1	17	7	8		25	30	5	8	3		1
2007	Carlton	5	13	2-0-11	57	50	40	97	6	5	40	27	4	16	6	19	10	9		40	55	7	6	15	1
2008	West Coast	17	7	1-0-6	55	46	34	89	7	4	1	7		19	2	12	9	5		34	55	9	6	7		4
2009	West Coast	17	16	6-0-10	150	110	52	202	31	17	2	28	2	40	4	35	16	13		76	128	23	32	23	1	9
2010	West Coast	17	22	4-0-18	199	130	61	260	41	19	1	60	1	69	3	58	25	27	3	108	149	28	34	30	3	15
2011	West Coast	17	23	16-0-7	208	144	62	270	59	38		70		69	4	55	25	32	4	150	125	51	65	42	3	15
2012	West Coast	17	9	7-0-2	58	43	16	74	18	14		13		13	1	16	7	11	3	39	35	14	24	7	1	1
2013	West Coast	17	21	8-0-13	210	143	63	273	60	23	1	69	2	60	1	44	26	21	6	137	137	34	62	16	1	17
2014	West Coast	17	20	10-0-10	175	114	51	226	61	33		62	1	33	6	46	23	26	11	90	131	17	56	19	1	10
2015	West Coast	17	25	18-1-6	241	168	92	333	80	55		52	1	60	5	44	28	20	12	154	184	39	101	28	3	18
2016	West Coast	17	23	16-0-7	229	148	71	300	82	37	1	69	3	45	4	52	34	26	17	151	157	42	87	30	1	15
2017	West Coast	17	19	11-0-8	166	111	59	225	69	39	5	27		27		32	24	18	13	112	111	34	72	28		10
2018	West Coast	17	13	12-0-1	103	57	34	137	40	18		24	1	20	1	37	20	11		74	73	20	38	11		4

 

Jesse Hogan 152 goals in his first 4 years in 71 games.

Josh Kennedy 90 goals in his first 5 years in the AFL in 67 games. 

Jesse averaged 50% more disposals in those games as well.

I think you are the one that needs to feel really embarrassed. Also I was rubbishing the get rid of Hogan thread. I never said he would have made a difference yesterday, so don't change the meaning of my post.

I said he could be our Josh Kennedy and people want to get rid of him. He is on better track than Josh was at the same stage.

He ain't going anywhere.

40 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

If we play them at "home" it's likely to be in Darwin or the Alice unfortunately.

That sucks if true.