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hogan not in the top 10 in the best and fairest. and rightly so.

lol. i wish they just told us when the count was scheduled for

people asking for andrew brayshaw are probably just looking at his surname and his early draft position and thinking we should chase him. the truth is, i didnt see much in his debut season to get excited about. cerra on the other hand looks twice the player.

Agreed. Good logic. Yes, at any one pick it doesnt look to great but if you look at who you can pick then I trust Jason Taylor to get it right.

wow, you have very low standards. he is a good player..nothing more than that. he isnt even our best forward. he lacks in a lot of areas as a previous poster illustrated.

if hogan leaves and mcdonald gets injured there goes our whole season. im up for getting rid of hogan but i wouldnt mind some assurance. god knows we dont want weideman as our sole key forward.

im just putting it out there but i reckon he plays a bit soft. i dont wanna spend any more than a late 3rd rounder.

Pick 4, 5 and Brayshaw? Wow, some posters on here are so delusional. Also, what part of Brayshaws game do people like or do they like him just because he is Angus' brother and was a high draft pick? Cerra looks like double the player.

We have spargo, hannan, melksham and fritsch can go there too.

i like Kent but deserves opportunity at another club. People are kidding themselves if they expect a 2nd rounder from an injury riddled fringe player. We'll probably just do whats in Kents best interests and take a late pick for him.

Lewis' last game just can't be forgiven that easily. Flying to perth for a prelim and he hits a wce player off the ball, reverses the ball and they kick the 1st goal of the game from it and get the fans up and about. Pathetic act by a 'leader'. He then gave away about 3 more goals . I think Lewis has been good for us this season by by gee is he a polarising player. I think he is gone next season, due to leg speed alone.

thanks buggy. Unfortunately hung up to dry for his hit on Mills. Not the first player to have a brain fade. Some players Goodwin just doesn't favour and Bugg was one of them.

To be honest, I think Cerra looks a lot better than Andrew brayshaw.

myth? literally as soon as hogan went out we beat 4 top 8 teams in a row. naive to think its coincidence. it also happened last season.

finally a wise post

ok fair enough. I'll put it all on the table. strengths: -1 on 1 marking (although not as good as a few seasons ago) - aerobic capacity allows him to play multiple positions. - goal kicking prowess: potential to kick 60 goals a season. weaknesses - defensive pressure. -on field attitude - goal kicking accuracy - performances against top teams. i weigh all of these up and believe that nothing is more important than attitude. And that trumps all talent, especially when building a winning culture.

his debut was one of the worst in modern history. so until he plays well at afl level then i am not too excited

I just want people here to discuss dees players strengths AND weaknessds. my pet peeve are fans that think every dees player is gods gift to footy.

great news! I want Cerra and an early pick though. All these people can shove their goal stats up their behinds. Hogan is expendable. And rightly so. You don't chase jesse, then you're out the door like Jack Watts.

because everyone who loves hogan were the same people crying to the club when we shipped him out for pick 31. they have no idea about football. The only reason i'd want to keep hogan is if they turned him into a defender because you can't sook and whinge in the d50

Lol you guys are unbelievable. you're so obsessed with stats. Stats only tell a little bit of the story. Kennedy doesn't stop chasing and harrasing and applies relentless pressure inside 50m. There's no stats for chasing, There's no stats for implied pressure. Giving me tackle and goal numbers of kennedy/hogan etc. Seriously? You were probably the ones comparing watts to riewoldt statistically. Hogan is terrible defensively and is attitude on field is a disgrace. He stages for free kicks and complains to the umpire when the ball is still in play. I know its hard for simpletons to look deeper than his goal tally and high draft position but he needs to dramatically improve his defensive pressure. I was also one of the only posters in this forum at the start of the year that wanted to see more from petracca to prove that he had the polish to go to the next step as an afl player. And after this season now the media are on to him and realising that his disposal is poor and kicking for goal disgraceful. It usually takes people an extra season to look past a players draft position and call it as they see it. And i might add that anyone who thought jack watts was a good player and shouldve stayed should ban themselves from any football forum. Seriously embarassing the amount of people that thought pick 31 waa getting unders for him.

you can show me all the stats in the world. im sure you couldve shown similar stats to prove watts was decent. at the end of the day he offers 0 forward pressure. 0! he is not a great kick for goal and is mentally weak. no surprise he was no loss in finals and he is only best 22 if he fixes his attitude.

this is an embarassing comment. josh kennedy is a coleman medalist that excels in defensive pressure. Hogan is one of the worst in the comp for his pressure. If tom mcdonald couldn't have an impact in yesterdays game, no chance hogan wouldve gone near it.

lol talking about may. haha dude, we aint getting him

hannan is good. spargo will be okay but if he is going to succeed he needs to kick the goals that he missed today. Same as weideman. what ws up with his missed snap today