Deemania since 56

In all, DNs, this is the best summation and possible resolution of the issue for such a great player.

True, Ethan. IMO, 'crystal-balling it' we need a couple of big 'down back' utilities of the Neitz, Ingerson, Icke variety if TMac is to be sacrificed for fwd power.

This is a truism and its antidote is going to be '...aiding our own growth...' Before the electronic media, we were not part of the Big 4, we were the Big 1. Collingwood was the Big 2. South Melb, Ess, Geel, StK and Rich, Foots were the rest, in essence. What changed was the continued lack of success. That is our growth factor, underpinned by a diaspora of multiple inputs and outputs along the way. The latter being the stage that we are currently just re-entering since 2015. We need to be in a position, as a Club, where change occurs for their own benefit within both the AFL and Channel 7 (and/or any other media attempting to become so sublime). Just let it all grow for us.

A finite term to this point of time was intended. It was discussed amongst some colleagues and summarised from that forum in this form.

We cannot forget that fact.

Big mistake all around, as it panned out. Watts was conditioned to play for us for a few years to come yet there seemed to be a coaching issue to overcome. If it is too hard, snip it off? He is the best shot at goal in the league and our long-bomb policy going way over Watts' head did not help. When going forward with possession himself or when dropping back into the hotzone, Watts produced. His thought-action processes were elite. If he dodged an incoming tackle or stayed at the periphery of it, he could see an alternative which in team-play, could ameliorate the problem, moving the team forward. This was a feature of his game. He never lost a game from his actions. He did win a few, though.

If the offers were selectively made, it would make little sense or could be discriminatory in some way. I'd reckon that it may well have been a sampling to see if members would 'go for it' in any big way. In the medium-term, I would think this ticketing offer could be a great income-generator for the Club and could provide members of the Club addition satisfaction for their money and loyalties. Imagine 10 000 + Members at the 'G for a game in one deluxe area of the ground! This could occur every home game - all facilitated electronically on the Net - buy tickets cheaply, deliver print-out tickets for Members cheaply, get increased crowds at games - think of the potential for revenues to all aspects of the spectacle of football. Imagine how the Collingwood supporters would feel attending a match against the Mighty Demons at the 'G - and those from Carlscum, Essendrug and Whorethorn.

Legendary stuff, Ethan.

Pedo in a forward or relieving ruck position is in my best 22, but off the bench across a game. He is a mountain that could interrupt Tom Hawkins in a significant way if placed to kill on the backline. I don't see Hawkins hipping Cam very effectively, not beating him in the air because Tom seldom leaves the ground and for once, Cam is just as big, more mobile, better marking the ball and 'friggin attitudinal when elbowed, as Tom gets away with so often. Go Pedo!

Hey, Wilmoy. I had an experience, once, just like that which you describe. Years ago, the kids were screaming blue murder in the backyard and I thought one or two of them were injured by something, it was so bad at 6am on a Sunday morning. I jumped out of bed in my shortie pyjamas, raced to the backdoor and jumped/leapt across the landing onto the grass to get to those little darlings. Someone had left a garden rake 'prongs up' on the lawn - just where my feet were touching down in my panic. Well, I have never hit two balls so accurately and straight in all my life on the golfcourse, yet I'd never recommend it to anyone as a way to overcome a nasty slice!

These are ruthless suppositions and some of this may be closer to home than we may consider. It does not shake the loyalty of MFC supporters - or it shouldn't - it merely represents a perspective and viewpoint that is difficult to take but importantly, essential to take if the great range of factors that make up a football club are to be validated and inclusively considered. These suppositions and realities or fears are not exhaustive; such items may often be unknowingly overlooked but 'one at a time, fellas' is a start. A more complete club will emerge by questions 'on' or 'off' notice. As a sunset clause, I would certainly hope that we are richer and wiser for the experience.

No wuz....

Agree with this, Dees11, but I think Jeffy is a little sore at present and poor kicking is rather easily ameliorated if given attention, for Frosty. This does look good as a team of depth substitutes for key drivers .

He has damaged ribs, doesn't he (Garlett)? Whilst some of his JLT pick-ups/intercepts were great, these were one-handed in the main as if he was protecting his left side. Just an impression...

Wagner might be ok as he can play somewhat tall and short and is moving the ball a little better than last year.

Yes, he was for about 2 years - but it was one of those 'lesser' broadcasts away from DB who were big with Louie the Lip and Jack Dyer, with constant interruptions from racing.

Another refusal to partake in a battle of wits with an unarmed person, so I apologise instead, in advance.

Was it the adolescent Dennis Commetti who took over, impressively from Don Hyde at UZ - forging an impeccable career? He knew all the Demons players in those days, so well. Memories may be inaccurate but I think that was him on that station....

No, not precluded, just intolerant. And you?

I had a flutter on a roughie in the last and the nag got up!

ok, JUST A DREAM.

Fairy Nuff, then. Understand the duality. Remember the 60s footy broadcasts on 3UZ on Saturdays? '...the Demons are 3pts behind in time-on in the last quarter. Alves passes to Bourke who handballs to himself and taps the ball forward, running onto the ball just 3 feet from the goalmouth with Collingwood players streaming in from at least 20 feet away and yes, Bourke is lining up the goal ...' 'THEY'RE RACING AT MOONEE VALLEY IN THE 6TH, WITH CHEWING GUM STICKING TO THE RAILS...'

I'd give Garlett a rest for a week - so that Hannan and Fritsch can work on a routine or two. I would really like Frosty - even from the bench - to get into the backline as a mad f'ker running wild. That guy is now INTIMIDATING and that is what we need ...

I watch no-one but the DEMONS. If the Dees are not on the TV telecast, it is not worth watching. That has been my petty little protest for all these years ... it infiltrated my Foxtel telecasts, too, and radio broadcasts ... and I only attend Demons' games. One-eyed, inflexible and stubborn. HOOtfCares? The idea of DV8 to enact a ban on telecasts is a very good one.

Watch the what? That was 10 yrs ago, wasn't it? Do they still have it on the calendar? I thought that it was dead in the water and so terribly boring...nowhere near as enduring as the footy - Melbourne footy, that is.