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I do a double take every time...every time.

‘Cause this a page of pedantry - can you elucidate where the irony is?

Sometimes you'd think these things are scripted for the hysterical media write ups... Postscript headline "Brown goes south and sticks it up North."

Cue pessimistic Demonlanders writing on 'Is Goodwin the right guy' thread, that if we still make finals, we're just making up numbers, thus it's and indictment on the board for agreeing to a contract extension for Goodwin.

I'm no medical expert either - but I think rephrasing of the injury report would be useful. 'May has overcome all concussion concerns, but will need to complete Wednesday’s main training to prove his fitness after also fracturing his right eye socket against Geelong.' to 'May has overcome all concussion concerns, but will need to complete Wednesday’s main training to prove his fitness after also fracturing his right eye socket when Tom Hawkins threw back an 'errant' elbow that connected flush with the innocent parties eye socket and caused significant trauma.'

From a monitoring/rehab perspective, IF the club and the players (Brown and Weid) feel safe to come back from their respective injuries to play at what ever relevant % game time they can - then I feel they should both come in. Personally I don't subscribe to this particular match being a measure of our side, or where we are at, or where our system is at. I feel it is moreso reflective of those components for Richmonds however... In the makeup of our team there will be two situations either a) a forward line devoid of our best three targets (Weiderman, Fritsch and Brown) or b) a forward line devoid of game time together of our best three targets (Weiderman, Fritsch and Brown) - as we all know - they have never played together. (not that the media would mention that). Hence it is not a marker of the aforementioned. Where overcoming rehab is concerned, it is now about getting as many games together as possible to build cohesion and trust in the forward half of the ground.

Just a rreeeaaalll friendly shot across the bow there @demonstone eh ?

Are we the ‘stingiest’ team (tm)? How good a word is ‘stingy’, it always reads as stingy even though you mean stingy.

Ah mate, I keep getting typos and people keep correcting me - I wonder if I’m even cut out for data entry ??‍♂️

Thank goodness for the fourth...

It makes you wonder what the metrics are that certain players are measured in. as well as how many games before someone can find form (or be carried)... based on past evidence of that player being able to perform. Personally I get annoyed at the reductionist terminology around 'he must have photos' or 'Goodwin's [insert any coach] best mate' There are clear standards that must be met for sure - I reckon Demonlanders could pull together and get a rough consensus on the worthy stats for each part of the ground. *perhaps we could get 23 folk each week to follow one player and look at all the 1%'s that they do (all the other metrics are readily available).

What's the difference between arrogance and backing yourself @RigidMiddleDigit?

I’d say we’re fair dinkum, with an undercurrent of crumbling ??‍♂️

I agree that, that is nice when it happens, but there is a myriad of reasons/factors the a team (or individuals within a team) put on a display last night - it's not just about Richmond's performing and St Kilda being ground into submission. Something else is clearly going on when St Kilda can come back from 5/6 goals down vs WCE to then loosing by 15 goals the following week... Richmond on paper are not a 20 goal better team than WCE.

How bout them Apples ? don’t mind a bit of Elliott smith :) aptly has been a haunting musician to my love affair with the Dees.

Seriously for the love of god.... or whomever is your deity. So this is how it played out 1) Goodwin comes on board as coach 2) Goodwin is enthusiastic in 2018 - but rules with an iron fist, and no one elses opinion is valid 3) Goodwin has his own coaching staff and continues to be not open to other coaching staff's opinions 4) FD move on most of coaching staff from Goodwins initial tenure - and he fails to listen (2019) 5) Goodwin fails to be willing to listen in 2020 hub/covid etc 6) Williams and Yze are recruited - and Goodwin through gritted teeth (or fear of losing job) is only now willing to listen. Coincidence is not causation...

It's a valid point @Bring-Back-Powell - essentially, which games can you/should you choose to drop. Richmond feels apt perhaps the Bulldogs - though I think we can match them not Port definitely not Sydney... Actually, 4-0 - we can beat anyone - including delusional dreams of smashing WC in Perth...remember the time that TMAC?.... :)

My old man hated the royal blue - guilt by association. I think as @Colin B. Flaubert spoke about -it's been the guernsey/jersey/alderney of choice in some recent 'meaningful wins'. I think it looks less flattering on my dad bod, but it is disco-esque as @Chookmentioned. Superstitions are dead and buried right?

Latin? but nonetheless :) Personally Viney is clearly fabric of the club - and flawed. But seemingly less flawed thus far this year If Jack wanted to leave, then that's his choice, if the FD pushed it because of a need to either get him out, or get out his flaws to capitalise on someone where the attributes would be more useful, than that is fine too. But jeez, you know what you are going to get and not get with Jack... 'it does what it says on the tin'

Pardon my naivety, what is Williams's methodology on kicking that stands out from other coaches, or what other clubs do?

Nice work Col, no room for ‘choc brownie points’? Anyway that was a reach... keep up the word smithing

Unless there is some metrics that are alluding to Rivers being tired...I would rather him than Hibberd (not that I dislike Hibberd,). Also I would go the future for the replacement for May, and that'd comfortably be Petty. I'm quite excited as to what Petty brings...

In the last, when Melksham missed a soda in front of goal, I really thought if he kicked that, the flood gates would have opened and we could have piled on a few more goals... was a shame, as it's great to get reward for effort. In Germany they have a term in soccer, where junk time goals come from either team... it's called 'scoreboard cosmetics'...it'll come though...even if we lose matches (and we will) throughout the season.

So this thread is a work in progress, is it meaningful data? I'm not so sure... as one could argue the scoring shots are an output of everything else. Anyway, I'll keep pumping it out weekly Is anyone still using the AFLpro link on the website? @binman? Does that have a heat map of scores? I thought I'd start a thread looking at the amount we are scoring the differential anyone else's input into patterns, methodology, tactics, location