biggestred

Funny how essendon don't know and there are no leaks

They will be unbearable if not guilty

My gut says not guilty too Thus opening the way for everyone to take whatever they want and keep no records

So what happens if they are not guilty?

Great idea. Just Do It.

How did you find banff? Nice place to go? Is there much to do apart from ski?

Ffs

we havent laid a shepherd for years. and then we wonder why our kicking accuracy is so poor...

no more selfies!

I'm sure it was but I can't find it anywhere.

Unfortunately neither of those articles have the direct quote in them... beginning to wonder if it's just something that's been paraphrased

That's what I thought too but I can't find it

Anyone have a link to the article with the "get me the good stuff we play carlton this week" text?

Or Essendon injected Unknown substances that cure cancer saga

How about Essendon drug cheating saga

Yes. Also if they are guilty and the afl bail them out, 17 other clubs will lose their [censored].

Fair enough. The hun has made him look like the bad guy who did all this on his own when it was clearly a group leader by the messiah, uh I mean hirdy.

That they had a mass spectrometer reading of TB4 is pretty much what the afl tribunal wanted because they wanted proof that it was actually TB4. Well there you go guys, it was. Dots joined.

WADA made a concerted push on the evidence from a mass spectrometer reading of what it argues was thymosin beta-4 – the banned substance the players are accused of being administered – by calling a second expert from Canada, in addition to ASADA's expert witness David Handelsman, to give evidence on the "second batch" of alleged TB4. The mass spectrometer reads the molecular weight of a substance and while this was close to a match for TB4 (4971 compared with TB4's 4963, as measured by Bio21 at Melbourne University), it was only one of two batches of the substance ASADA and WADA claimed were compounded and given to Stephen Dank by chemist Nima Alavi. The CAS has to be "comfortably satisfied" TB4 was administered to specific players. I'm no scientist but 4971 to 4963 is a difference of only 8. that's less than .1 of a % away from TB4. Of course the machine would have some error factor built in, but I'm willing to guess it's probably in the range of half a %

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-22/essendon-ignored-player-safety-supplements-regime-afl/7048630?section=sport

Think it's more a case of "keep quiet about the injections of substances that we now don't know what they were or have any records of" that makes it very suspicious in terms of cheating. In fact I'd say people should be in jail for that.

Ross Ray QC today told the Melbourne Magistrates Court players were instructed to keep the program a secret by club leaders including James Hird "to maintain Essendon's competitive advantage". By the way.... they've plead guilty to this

It's a no from me unless he spends 2 years being the ultimate pro. Even then he'll be 29... Although could be a stewie dew type ring in haha

They don't get it do they? The layman out there and fans of 17 other clubs can see that essendon were up to no good and that the afl have done nothing about it. Everyone thinks they are drug cheats bar the essendon faithful. Even if Cas clear the players we will still think they are cheats (it's not as if they have shown anything otherwise). The afl would do well to condemned their total lack of governanceas as well as their extremely dodgy supplements practices.

He still thinks the players were cleared