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Current figures of 4-4-0-1. Hazlewood was supposed to provide this kind of control but failed, which resulted in Johnson and Starc being less effective. Losing 3 Tests to a side with such weak batsmen (Lyth made 96 runs in the entire series, FFS!) is a major disappointment. Our batting has cost us this series, but Marsh and Lehmann have not assisted with their poor selections.

Also, ripping article on Cricinfo by David Hopps - http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2015/content/story/911881.html When you read it, and think about how the series has panned out, it's hard to see how England have beaten us three times. Lyth is awful, Cook's reached 50 once this entire series, Bairstow/Ballance have been just average, Stokes started well with the bat but has faded, and Buttler's not scoring runs either. The runs come from Bell or Root, and each has only played maybe 3 or 4 great innings. With the assistance of Moeen, Broad and Wood making some lower order runs when required, they've done enough with the bat to hold us at bay and relied on our ineptitude with the bat. He also points out the no ball problem that's getting worse. Finn and Marsh both took wickets on no balls, and both times the gap between foot and line was enormous. Umpires are so worried about making the right decision at the striker's end that they seem to be missing regulation no balls, let alone tight ones. Bowlers are pushing the envelope with it because they're not being called through their spells, which results in more no balls occurring, and any time you take a wicket they're going to check. Bowlers obviously can fix the problem by learning to bowl from behind the crease but if umpires let them go aside from wicket balls, it's going to keep happening.

How about Lyon's ball to Cook! I had expected this kind of performance pre-series - Smith, Warner, Rogers making runs, then attacking bowling from Starc and Johnson with control from the other pace bowler(s). Neither Watson nor Hazlewood could manage it, and Siddle should have been playing at least one Test earlier. And, of course, the batting has been abysmal other than here and at Lord's. I wouldn't write Siddle's career off. Rogers and Clarke need replacing, so Voges could hold his spot simply because we don't have three good enough batsmen to come in (we don't have two, to be honest). But I wouldn't be continuing with Voges in the side on the back of a 70.

As a 49ers fan, the prospect of Hayne making the roster and getting some kick/punt returns is one of the few things exciting me about this season. Macca, I thought Tebow looked surprisingly good from those highlights!

I'm sure we'll bounce back almost straight away - whether it's against Bangladesh, or at home against NZ and the WIndies (home = our conditions = easier for our players), we'll score more runs and Lehmann and Clarke (if either are still there) will say 'see? We told you so!'. The key is to find the right young batsmen who have the required technique. Khawaja has always shown that, but cannot convert it to Test level. Maxwell, on the other hand, has no technique to speak of and is everything that is wrong with Australian cricket. I like Maddinson, Silk, Lynn and Burns, although Burns last summer was disappointing. Hopefully Shield pitches this summer are greener and give the batsmen more of a test against swing and seam. Of course, the real test is four years away - no England tour until 2019. Over the next two years, prior to the next Ashes in Australia in 2017/18, we have (for Tests): Away to Bangladesh Home to NZ/Windies Away to NZ Away to South Africa (TBC) Away to Sri Lanka Home to South Africa/Pakistan Away to India Home to Bangladesh Of that, the NZ tour in February should be good, although their pitches are more like South Africa's than England's. The Away tour of Sri Lanka in July and the tour of India in March 2017 will be disasters, IMO, unless we find the right batsmen this summer.

Appalling cricket, yet again, from Smith - absolutely rank shot on Day 2 when you're 200-odd runs behind. Just make it to tea, then stumps, then the next day FFS! We are likely to go down by an innings, and if not, then by 10 wickets with a chase set of less than 50 runs. I think we have a tour of Bangladesh before the summer - danger? Rogers will retire, though I'd keep picking him if not. Smith needs to mature. Marsh and Voges aren't the future if they can't play swing and keep pushing hard outside off. Clarke's finished. So too Watson and Haddin. Hazlewood's not threatening enough, Starc can't control it well enough, Johnson's only got two threats (pace and bounce) so can't do it all himself when the pitches aren't right. Warner, Smith, Johnson and Lyon are the only players IMO who are a definitive part of the immediate future of Test cricket.

I agree Siddle should be playing, but the obvious issue isn't the bowling, it's the batting. We need to be finding new young talent to replace Rogers, Clarke and Voges, and at the moment we don't have anyone standing up for those spots. S Marsh is in form but continues to make ducks at Test level. Meanwhile Smith's technique is being worked over, again. Our home summer is against New Zealand and West Indies. NZ is good but I'm sure in our conditions we'll see our batsmen making big runs and everyone, yet again, saying there's nothing wrong with the batsmen. Until we next go to England or India.

Siddle doesn't make runs though. Have a look at Voges' face when he got out. A shrug as if to say 'well, I got done by a great catch'. Yes, a stunning catch, but you got out because your technique is abysmal. Classic Australian batting - couldn't possibly be a flaw in the technique, it's all fine and it'll work eventually (i.e. next Australian summer).

Classic Australian bowling. Starc can't bowl six balls in the same spot and Hazlewood's first ball to Cook is full on leg stump.

All out for 60, 20 minutes before lunch. Most likely outcome is England is something like 2/200 at stumps, I'd say. Make 300, bat once, do us tomorrow and beat us within two days. Nevill bowled, Warner caught behind on the inside edge (the only batsman to truly be beaten by an unplayable ball). The other 8 wickets were all caught in the slips, almost everyone with bad technique.

I'm confident they will be. Starc will lack control, Hazlewood isn't menacing enough, and their batsmen aren't technically flawed like ours. We might bowl them out for 200 or 250, but that of course won't matter now.

This is, honestly, the most inept batting innings I've ever seen. The bowling is good but not unplayable. It's swinging, but not a mile. This is just awful batting. Front foot doesn't move. Playing miles away from the body. Playing in front of the front pad to the swinging ball. Gaps between bat and pad. Heads all over the place. Not capable of leaving the ball. Not capable of watching the ball onto the bat. Not capable of playing late. Not capable of bunkering down and just trying to survive (Marsh, Voges, Clarke and Starc all dismissed driving). Edit: still on track for 47 all out...

Horrendous batting. Absolutely horrendous batting. They're doing a good job of showing it on TV right now. Smith, Marsh, Voges, Clarke, Nevill all pathetic technique - awful feet positioning, playing away and in front of the body, gaps between bat and pad.

How does it get worse?! Voges' technique abysmal. Rogers, Smith, Marsh and Voges all out due to poor technique.

Dear lord, 4/16 after 16 balls. Rogers, Warner, Marsh all get ducks. Voges, shunted down to number 6, is already at the crease 20 minutes into the innings. This is the Test with the Ashes on the line. What an inept response.

And that's it - Ashes almost certainly gone. 3/10 after 8 balls. Clarke moves down to 5, already batting 6 minutes in.

If you choose not to go to the football because you'd like to boo Goodes (or any other player) but you fear being called a racist, then good riddance. The stadium will be better off without you.

Just noticed a couple more we've broken this year: Win a game in July (broken in Round 16 vs Brisbane) - we'd lost our last 16 games in July and the last win was Round 17, 2011 vs Port Adelaide (in Darwin). Win a game in August (broken in Round 18 vs Collingwood) - we'd lost our last 10 games in August and the last win was Round 21, 2012 vs GWS.

I'm not sure why Haddin would be considered more stable as a middle order batsman (let alone batting at 6) when he's average around 15 for the last year, whilst Nevill is coming off a 50 when he tried to hold the second innings together at Edgbaston. Not bringing Haddin back can be debated, but Nevill took his chance and did more than enough to hold his spot. Agree with dropping Clarke down a spot though - as a last-ditch attempt to get his form back, I'd bad S Marsh at 4 and Clarke at 5, with M Marsh at 6 and Nevill at 7. I don't know if a change will be made to the bowlers, but I think it's really risky to play Cummins who's played just one first class game in two years. Siddle's deserved a recall and on that basis I think it would have to be Hazlewood who makes way (more like-for-like that way), but we may well leave it as you say.

Next week a ripping chance to knock another two off the list. We play our best football against sides between 5th and 14th on the ladder. When we hit the top 4 sides we wilt, when we play bottom 4 sides we buckle under the pressure of expectation. North is right in the bracket of sides I like us playing against (ditto Bulldogs and GWS, when we get to play them).

Clarke dropping Bell was the last tiny little chance we had in this Test. It's hard to believe we're going to be 2-1 down against a side with Lyth, Bairstow, Stokes and Buttler in its top 7, Moeen as the spinner, and Finn as a pace bowler, but such is Australian cricket at the moment. Marsh in for Voges, and I'd drop one of Starc or Hazlewood for Siddle - the stats suggest Starc is performing worse but Siddle is more like for like with Hazlewood than Starc. Need to back Rogers, Warner and Smith in to make runs without Anderson bowling with the new ball at Trent Bridge, get a platform for Clarke (maybe put him down to 5 and put Marsh at 4) so that he can bat with a bit of freedom possibly.

Classic Australian batting woes. Moving ball and pressure of needing to bat a long innings and we crumble, again. Voges has to be dropped. Clarke can't be dropped but we're playing one short at the moment with him at 4, we need someone stronger at 5. Mitch Marsh is a good player and I like him in the side but he has to be a better batsman to hold his spot at 6. Inexcusable from Smith to do that after failing in the first innings. We should already lead by 100 though, failing to knock the tail over was partly unlucky (lots of misses from Moeen) but partly we let them off. Starc's bowling in particular was putrid. Agree with both. Voges is hopeless and Marsh is in form. That change has to be made. Starc is dangerous when he gets it right but he isn't getting it right enough.

That's your definition of 'elite'? Gets a game for a strong side? Not only is West Coast not yet 'elite' (they'd want to achieve something first before they get that mantle), even if they were he's not 'elite'. He's still learning how to play FFS!

Another Watts v Naitanui thread! Yay!

Possibly no Riewoldt and at the G, and against a side who, until the last quarter against Richmond, had kicked just 10 goals in their last 7 quarters (3 of which vs GWS came in 2 minutes). St Kilda have been getting a fair bit of positive media recently (a 110 point win does that I guess), but I maintain they are overrated and overhyped. That of course doesn't mean anything and we could easily lose the game convincingly, but we are more than capable of winning this one.