Wiseblood

I'm just loving the fact that every second post is referring to the Crows as the 'Cows'. It's fitting.

Adelaide are making themselves not only look like absolute fools, but proving Lever to be correct - if this is how they deal with stuff at their club, then I'd want to get out of there as well. Not to mention Tex apparently getting stuck into him for leaving as well. How old is Tex? 5? The deal will get done in the end, no doubt about it. I reckon Mahoney spoke well this morning and it sounded like we will be sticking to our guns and not budging on the deal.

Two first rounders is too steep, and I'll be a little disappointed if we cough that up. I still think our first round pick plus a possible pick swap in the later rounds will end up being the deal. I'd take out the Pick 14 as well, although what I'd like to do is trade Watts to the Swans for their second rounder (even though it's later than the Powers) and then stick that with our first round pick to make the deal for Lever. We keep next years picks and still hold one in the second round this year. Others will be right to argue Pick 31 is too low for Watts, and they may be right, but I don't see the Swans giving up their first round pick (even though I'd like them to).

So essentially we pass on picks 10, 14, 27 and Watts for Lever and Pick 35. Seems a little steep if you ask me.

I have some faith in this info. The HUN tried to drum up some controversy with an article about the Pies scuppering our deal, but it was only based on the idea that they could offer more. Means nothing if Lever doesn't want to go there, and the above information is consistent with what's been said for a while now.

Crows have short memories. We were happy to trade Scott Thompson to them for just a first round pick when he was desperate to go home. We did it early in trade week too if I remember correctly, and we did it with minimal fuss. They would do well to treat Lever the same way.

Good to see you still around @dazzledavey36!

He had a tough game in the GF, but so did many of his teammates. The way we want to play will suit Lever superbly. We play a zone defence and we need players who can actually zone off, support their teammates and effect either a spoil or a mark. Lever is already one of the best in the competition at this. We can still have Oscar, Frost and even T Mac playing the key defensive role with Lever roaming as a support player. It will be absolutely invaluable and he will save us goals week after week. I don't want to pay a steep price for him, but I'm confident that whatever we do pay he will pay back ten fold in the coming years.

Deal of the century. Sign him up now!

I think you'll find you are forgetting Mitch McGovern, who would play ahead of Watts.

Why would the Crows want Watts? Makes zero sense.

5 years and 900k is what he will be paid on average over the life of his contract. We might back end it or front end it to suit what we currently have on the books and what we may have in the future, but the days of them being paid that same amount every year are well and truly over. It's nothing to be worried about.

Winner winner, chicken dinner!

Almost at 100 pages. Well done people.

Barry Prendergast?

Are you seriously trying to suggest he is worth just a third rounder? Bloke still has years of footy left and can be a matchwinner on his day. Consistency issues aside, you could easily get a late first rounder for him. No way we give him away for that. I'd rather keep him.

I think I'm getting off lightly!

I have to apologise to all in this thread as I was the clever man who, jokingly, said I wouldn't give up Oliver for 9 first round picks. It's totally snowballed from there. Come home soon, Jake.

Mine was gone by 2012. You've done well, Red.

How's that sense of humour, Steve?

I wouldn't trade him for 9 first round picks.

Cheers, Lampers. The main bit I got out of this is how much Petracca loves the Dees and will play his career here with us. Love it!

Dean Kent is a case in point. Many here are saying he isn't up to it, yet for some reason West Coast will want him as part of some farcical Gaff trade. It won't happen. If Kent were to be traded it would be for a third round pick, at best.

I never said it wasn't true, Cards. All I'm saying is that if you put rumours out there as fact, and they don't come through, then you lose your credibility. I'm quite happy to listen to info from those who have been proven to be in the know. Others? Who knows where they get their information from, and until they have been proven right a few times, then I'll remain skeptical.

And rightly so. If you put it out there and it's not true then your credibility is zero.