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My clock feels like it's got flat batteries time is going that slow! C'mon!!!!!!!!!!!!

So we finally get to drop Jones to Casey without any issues? Yay, where do I sign?

I do agree sue, hoping a final will give them a big "taste" Making finals is a massive mental hurdle they need to overcome to move forward.

Yep, wait on the outside while we crash in with 3 v 1, then they run away. That is a coaching issue.

I can definitely see that side of it, I can also see that limping in with 3 straight losses can create more of the same losers mentality. They've had their chance this year and blown it, we should be higher on the ladder. Fingers crossed it doesn't get to that anyway and we don't go into R23 this year with the weight of the world on our shoulders. Clubs like Hawthorn hate losing, we need to find that burn and desire attitude, which will help us beat the better sides and win close games.

Fire away Johnny.

To be honest, if we lose next two I'd rather miss the finals than limp in and rely on Ess. I want these players to burn in the guts if we lose our last 3. It was interesting to hear Shaun Burgoyne on AFL gameday say it burnt Hawks players in the guts with disappointment when they missed the finals last year, now look at them. And us, well more of the same after round 23 last year.

Coll, GWS etc are ruined by injuries yet they keep winning mostly, I hate injuries for an excuse when other clubs find a way. By the way, whats your joke of the day Trac, I need a laugh.

A good article for those who keep saying "our scores against have improved, so defence isn't an issue." The issue is team defence. The mids laziness is always on show and they only run one way. Interestingly, Clarkson and a few senior players have always said Hawks dont care too much about winning contested ball and look at their success.

They have their 3 best players out, we should win.

Imagine if we didn’t hardly lay a tackle in the first 15mins.....

If we lose both we need Ess to beat Port in Adelaide. If we win 1 we're in. If we win both and Coll lose to Freo in Perth we finish 4th. If they dont win, we finish 5th

If I see us bombing long into the forward 50 and coughing up easy goals out the back I will come and find you Simon.

That’s the issue, we’re just as likely to lose both guys as win them. Lose both and it’s gane over (unless Ess beat Port in Adelaide)

Jeez horrible stats outside of Bugg and Wagner.

Bananas 4Life

They’re a totally different team at home and Pies have a huge injury list, anything can happen as we almost saw with Saints tonight.

If Freo beat Coll in Perth and we win both, we can finish 4th?

Delicious

Go Saints! lol

Lots of people wrote Sydney off a few weeks back, they just have too much experience, class and are well coached and drilled, can never write the bastards off

So don’t rate the movie? Was going to watch it tomorrow

All good mate. I can understand your theory if he’d flushed it and it went out, but it just came off the side of his shin, not even at an angle consistent with the direction he intended. Also, not sure there’s anything in the rules about hacks and soccer kicks? Tigers have this as part of their game plan. Anyway, good discussion, let’s hope GWS get bruised and battered here ?

Are GWS playing that well? Haven’t been watching closely

It scraped off the side of his shin, if he isn’t sure and can’t see it (which was the case obviously) then he can’t and shouldn’t adjudicate deliberate. It was a terrible decision.