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We will keep having this discussion in its various permutations until something more dramatic overtakes it and pushes the trauma of 2019 into the background. Wins, wins and more wins in 2020 should do the trick. (And then some more wins. GO DEMONS!!!)

I don't think Liam's talent was wasted. He could have been Bob Pratt, Peter Hudson, and Ablett senior rolled into one and still would have struggled to make it due to matters nothing to do with football thrust upon him. AFL football was not in his destiny, unfortunately.

Correct, it sapped and impurified their precious bodily fluids. That's why Ron did not avoid the company of women, but he did deny them his essence.

Mum Viney may have a rough time of it. Tot Viney may try to force his way out!

Wouldn't have picked that of you, OD. What denomination? Our Brothers of the Perpetually Underachieving Weideman? I see a fortunate resolution to this dilemma. In the very pages of the good book! Verily, it is written: I say unto ye, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Also it is written: thy pastor doth desire to driveth a fast car, so cougheth up

Hogan: (thinks) that sounds like a challenge!

I recall a time when skinny teenagers Scully and Trengove were drafted and were immediately in our best midfield. in retrospect, a very bad sign.

He's also dropped six blokes in training and is looking forward to many more in the real home and away stuff

Or ..... interchange numbers will become MANDATORY, with pre-arranged interchange times throughout each quarter ... that somehow take exactly 30 seconds. Remember, every good idea you have ever had has already been thought of by a TV advertising executive.

Call me an old romantic but I would like to see KK get fit, get picked (on merit) and play a couple of games, then -- if he's not up to it -- retire. Like with Trengove. Retire with no question marks, and dignity. (Having said that, if Trengove hadn't been forced to play with a busted foot .......................................................)

Shave his entire head bald and grow his ..... erm ... never mind. Family web site.

"The Philosopher's Clone"

Oh man! What a full-on assault of irony and wishful thinking. I know you are fully aware of this, but please, I can't stand that much in a single post.

... or because he's perverted the game in so many ways. 50 metre penalties, unlimited interchange, experienced players being rookies ... the list goes on and on

No I don't. But I don't know on what basis. It's all guesswork (from all of us).

Interesting. "The evil men do lives after them, the good is oft interred with their bones." With this chap it appears to be the opposite. That so many Demons fans are waxing eloquent about an oppo player speaks volumes about the character of Mr Guinane.

Ha! ha! this is definitely one of yours I am not apportioning blame or reasons. I am saying that our coaches should have reviewed that PF, regardless of their gut reaction, in order to learn as much as they possibly could from it. Such an effort might have had a mitigating effect on 2019 where even our non-injured and non-ill prepared players routinely ran around as if they were Izzy Folau playing his first praccy match for GWS.

I thought his official title is "On What Planet" Sheedy. The answer being Mars. (Points for thinking big though.)

Were we cooked physically? Were we cooked mentally? Or was it that, having beaten them at the same ground a month before, WCE put in some homework on us and worked out how to pick us apart? And if it was #3, was it a sneak preview of what other clubs were going to do to us in season 2019? Sixteen other clubs were watching. That's why the game should have been reviewed, even if the club already thought it was #1 or #2. You have to know these things, not guess.

Aren't you forgetting ... Christache?

He heard there's a co-captains job going at Port

Yes, I accept that. It's really the coaches who wield the power. But I do think that footballers, early in their careers at least, see the coaches as "teachers", as in "like when we wuz at school" and are authority figures not quite trusted as much as a captain who is "one of the boys and just like us". We can analogise this to death, with comparisons to politics, business, etc, and nothing quite compares to a sports team. No-one/nothing is perfect. Having a captain doesn't exempt from c*ck-ups. There have been bad emperors, kings, popes, prime ministers, businessmen, CEOs, coaches, football players and milk bar proprietors. All just part of the business of being a human being on this spinning rock.

Having co-captains is like having co-prime ministers. You have one "prime" minister, the other ministers are the "leadership team". Co-Popes. Similar deal. Co-racing car drivers. There's only one steering wheel. (In fact we do see co-drivers at the Bathurst races, but they're not in the car at the same time, and one of them is very definitely the "prime" driver.) Because of human nature, your co-captains will not be equal in all facets. And one of them will be seen as the "chief" captain and the other as the "second in authority" captain. It's just the way our hierarchical primate nature works. But then in a team environment you will have some players who see co-captain A as the "chief" captain, and others who will see co-captain B as the "chief". Not a good recipe for a high level team sport where everyone is supposed to be driving relentlessly towards an identical goal.

Well I'll be blowed. I was sure we had more than those two. We've done very very well (as have Cats and Dons) to win all those flags with only two players.