Chelly

Wasn't it just a few days ago that $cully "admitted turmoil within the Melbourne camp played a role in his decision to leave the Demons"?

But the turmoil happened in July/August 2011 which was long after the GWS approaches were made.

Does $cully have a crystal ball?

Nobody will come out to watch them play.

Don't expect big crowds.

No wonder the football public perceives the AFL as being corrupt in the sense that it is allowing GWS to get away with every sneaky move in the book. When these nonsensical maneuveres turn out to be failures will they change the rules and give them another leg up?

I recently heard Leigh Matthews call GWS "desperate". They can't attract established players, they've bought young players for double and triple their true worth and they're not developing the framework for a true football culture. This is a club that's doomed to failure. They should have called them the Bears.

Yeah thanks.

And if you're Tom $cully and you're reading this you can p1zzorf.

Sportingbet Australia 2012 AFL Premiership Odds - 

$3.50 Collingwood

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$11.00 West Coast Eagles

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$21.00 St. Kilda

$21.00 Essendon

$26.00 Western Bulldogs

$26.00 North Melbourne 

$34.00 Sydney Swans

$41.00 Adelaide

$51.00 Melbourne

$67.00 Richmond

$67.00 Brisbane

$126.00 Port Adelaide

$126.00 Gold Coast Suns

$501.00 GWS Giants

Were all the players in attendance?

Yes indeed they were all there including number 31 who was heavily disguised and sat under a table all evening counting $100 bills and arranging them in neat piles.

Yeah, and if he pisses off leaves then at least he would be leaving on a winning note which he should savour because I reckon he won't be playing in too many winning teams for GWS this side of 2015.

I hope we win our three remaining games and miss out on the finals.

The club has bigger fish to fry than to fall into the top eight without deserving to be there.

We need to locate a new coach and plan our pre season. We need to decide who to keep, who to trade and we need to rejig our list and determine who leads at the club. Too much to do to be distracted by a finals campaign. We know what we're like against the better clubs. We're shite.

Should do well with an influx of players who took the field for us today.

Would have picked up more possessions than some of our so-called stars today.

I don't think that any CEO of any football club should publicly discuss the terms of an individual players contract, you obviously don't agree with that. That's fair enough, but I never said it was a major crime, just an own goal, which is purely a mistake.

To say that the club has the capacity to match offers from another club is different to publicly discussing an individual player's contract.

It is important for all AFL clubs with the exception of the GWS (to which different rules apply) to make it clear that it is irresponsible for them to be drawn into inflationary spirals to retain one player. Geelong did exactly that last year when it refused to match the GCS offers for a Brownlow Medallist and champion premiership player in Ablett. It managed to retain most of the rest of its list and continues to thrive this year. Nobody from Sleepy Hollow bagged their CEO or their administration for taking a stand on this. The Bulldogs are taking the same stand on Ward. It's only when you have people sniping at individuals inside the club that every issue becomes sinister and evidence of their alleged wrongdoing. I like Scully as a player but if the AFL creates an inflationary monster that can tear away at a club's fabric and he or his management are prepared to take advantage of this then I back my club because at the end of the day, it's a team sport and we can only progress with team players who produce value for money.

I believe this is what Schwab was saying and it's the essence of what the club's about. That doesn't preclude us from negotiating a deal with Scully but what it does say is that such a deal is not all about dollars and cents but that there are other factors the player needs to weigh up in arriving at an agreement with a club.

I just watched the clip of Silvagni. and for the life of me can see no smoking gun there. For one, he wasn't quite matter of fact at all, but stuttered and stammered as he spat it out. Secondly, he mentioned that without a doubt an approach had been made, but then added the bit about last October as an afterthought. Far as I'm concerned, all that was confirmed through all of this was that an approach had been made, and to avoid criticism about making such an approach mid season, he added the bit about last October as a bit of a safeguard. As Grandson of a Gun alluded to, there is a fair bit here in the semantics. An "approach" to the letter of the law, would include even asking the manager if he woud be interested in a chat. On the other hand, I don't think it is at all outrageous to believe that by "approach" TS was referring to the offer of a contract. Some people want to see the bad side of Tom, and others want to see the good side. We may be naive, and you may be jumping at shadows. But I still see no smoking gun that proves Tom to be a liar, only a kid sticking to a set timeline.

I saw the interview too. Silvagni is a terrible media performer and presents poorly in this interview. Had he been an MFC official then there are some posters here and a goodly few in the media who would have said he's nervous and evasive, he's hiding something, lying, the interview is a clear indication that Scully's gone and the MFC official stuffed up, the players hate him and that he is about to be sacked.

Look at how many of the other top notch players that have said no thanks to GWS and re signed with their club, we've been made to look weak especially when we've made public our counter offer. That was an own goal and when Schwab came out and said we could match the GWS offer but wouldn't, it was a double own goal.

So Schwab being honest, open and transparent and saying that a responsible club should consider limits to which it should go when paying its footballers is a major crime?

No Tom Scully.

I have a feeling those aliens are well past Alpha Centauri and on their way to Sirius.

From the Jay Clark article:

"O'Meara has all the tools to be a No.1 pick.

"So while that would put Melbourne in an unbelievably strong position, it would disadvantage all the other clubs in the competition, who are in desperate need of an uncompromised draft after two really tough years."

Appalling.

A club that loses a priority draft pick should get compensated by getting picks that put it in a strong position vis a vis the other clubs. That's what compensation's about you tool!

The fact Melbourne would have to wait a year before even getting access to that talent doesn't seem to be factored into this fairy tale.

Why not give like for like and ensure the Dees are properly compensated with at least pick 1 in 2011 if Scully goes?

Also on O'Meara, the story from out west is that the lad has suddenly developed a bout of OP although my contacts tell me that it might not be dissimilar to the bout of brain damage suffered by Jack Darling last year when he was king hit after a fight. .

An unbelievable performance from a young kid picking up 23 touches. He was in everything and also kicked a goal. Class!

Is there any danger in the world that one day will pass without a new fawning, sycophantic thread pleading for Tom Scully to remain at the club?

Enough already!

Channel 10 News now reporting that Fevola contacted Frankston coach Simon Goosey before he left for the USA about playing for the Dolphins this year.

The Casey move may be over.

To be sure, To be sure...Kevin O'brien you Absolute Legend!!!

What a superb day....for the Poms!

Now if the Irish crickiters can do that for Jimmy, our footballers should be able to achieve the same thing.

Fantastic stuff and I'm only sorry that the Netherlands just missed out on beating them in the first game because their tournament would have been over by now i that were the case.

Hell, at least they're paying him out. It's not like he's being left penniless.

When the bookies get to him and he has a few sessions of five card stud he'll be penniless.

Stop worrying folks. The only players going to GWS all happen to be clients of Ricky Nixon and therefore perfectly fit the demographics of the GWS region.

Speechless at his alleged behaviour regarding "that girl".

Won't post links!

The Herald Sun - "Nixon manages Riewoldt, Saints defender Sam Gilbert, who had a relationship with the girl, and on-baller Nick Dal Santo."

It was also great to hear recognition given to Jimmy when the Brad Green captaincy announcement was made.

This is a champion club.

Don't really see that as interesting. Of course Grimes is no certainty because it's footy and their are 1000 variables. There are so many possibilities that could stop Grimes being captain but overall I'd say the main threat to Grimes being the next captain is Tom Scully, who on training work rate alone would have to be considered for the leadership group in the next couple of years.

Why concern ourselves with who's going to be the next captain when we've just appointed a bloke who should hold the post for at least three years?

Congratulations to Brad and incidentally, what a sensible decision he made to stay with the club two years ago! It's paid dividends to him on a personal level and for the club as well. Let's hope that others also take note.

I think you do have a point WJ, and while I think I'll get by without numbers, it would be handy.

Carlton had its first intraclub praccy match yesterday and one of the posters on Talking Carlton wrote:-

The game wasn't easy to follow because the team sheet didn't have numbers and, as always this time of year, it was sometimes hard to identify players because we had new faces and some established faces with new haircuts and/or new body shapes...

Apparently a leaner, fitter Brock McLean impressed and there's no truth in the rumour that Blues fans are baying for Ratten's blood because one of the teams in the interclub was beaten.