dazzledavey36

Just on the Vanders discussion. He actually started off well. Unfortunately he saw the likes of Oliver, Petracca and Viney trying to break tackles and not give first option and so next thing Vanders is trying to run around blokes and get through tackles when there were clear options ahead of him to give first use. This is what happens when your so called leaders decide to click into Hollywood mode. It filters down to the rest of the team because they see there leaders do it, and think it's acceptable.

There's a difference to having a say and adding to a discussion, and then there's trolling. Even when you have them on ignore it comes up with others quoting. Though, I'm not surprised one bit that you struggle to understand this.

Genuine question here mods @Grapeviney @Demonland How much leeway do 'certain' trolls get on here before they get given the flick?

You do realise Mitch Brown has kicked 5.9 this year in the VFL right.

Our leaders were poor tonight. The Oliver reaction when Spargo marked in front of him was one of the most poorest thing I've seen from a Melbourne player in a long time. Oh, while I'm on Oliver, good to see him was still dishing up those pathetic dinky handballs over the head crap. [censored] peanut

He genuinely just gets so nervous trying to pick up the ball. Almost like an anxiety thing. Stark contrast to Charlie Spargo who is one of our most cleanest player going around.

Yeah ANB has been poor hasn't he. I'm sure he's doing good defensive stuff that coaches love, but he genuinely just hesitates a d fumbles more then I've ever seen in a player. I'd drop him in a heart beat but have no idea who'd I'd bring in for him.

We just signed him up to 5 years. Club wouldn't have the balls to trade him.

Argh.. Matthew Lloyd was rejected by St Kilda when Max King reached out to him for help around his goal kicking. Surely the club reaches out to Lloydy and ask the question? Can't be missing simple shots come finals.

My god Viney is an absolute mess of a footballer. People saying that he'll get dropped are kidding themselves. Goody absolutely loves him and he's just picked up 32 of the most useless stats ever. So they'll look at that as a win. To think the club signed him up for 5 years.. Luke Jackson needs a serious spell. Love the kid but he's done nothing for about a month and while he's ruck work is good he's a wasted space up forward. I'd bring Weideman/Daw or if we need to go bit smaller then bring in Melksham.

Haven't kicked more goals then points since the Brisbane game. That was 7 weeks ago. Had Brayshaw kicked that goal in the last we win. Simple huh? How are 24/7 fully professional AFL players missing simple goals every single week? Whoever is attempting to teach our blokes to kick goals is doing a horrible job and it's cost us games this year.

60 tackles to 81 there way. They wanted it more, whereas we thought it was going to happen.

What a genuine putrid performance. There was 0 positives out of tonight's game. Club drank its bath water during the week thinking this was going to be a walk in the park. Petracca said last week we had our hunger and drive back. I then see at half time that him and Oliver are having a giggle and laugh at half time. Knew straight away that their minds were elsewhere. Our mental fragility still lurks in the background. We don't deserve to be sitting on top.

This is genuinely pathetic

Viney is a liability. Midfield mix was well balanced when he was not playing and Harmes was the tagged. To think we have 5 years of Viney rubbish..

Good God this is a woeful game.

Defence more interested in trying to get the cheap mark then defend. Poor poor performance

Vanders playing well. Viney playing like an absolute crab.

Don't know if it's pouring in Melbourne, but I'm guessing these weather conditions will suit Vandenberg.

We've probably had Mac since he was 14-15 in our junior academy system. Last year he trained a couple of times with the club in the off season, as did all our other current academy players like Kobi George and Ryan Koo Kwet Kim from Dandenong Stringrays. Unfortunately due to the new rule change, we are about to lose a gun player that we've helped support and provide great training resources since 15 years of age to a click of a finger. Go figure.

His name is Max, not Jay.

Grundy had attitude problems that scared clubs, he's even been on record to say this himself. He was also was rated a genuine top 5-10 pick in all of his draft year. It's not still not going to stop clubs Jack. Clubs are putting a premium on ruckman because they want the next prototype Luke Jackson who can do the things he can around the contest. Clubs like to have at least 4 ruckman on their list. That's exactly what Mac Andrew is capable of. History will say that the kids who sky rocket up the draft charts are the ones who stand in the big games like state champions, finals etc. Right now he's taking all the right steps so far in staying in good form.

Jack, he ain't coming to us. He's highly rated within recruiters and clubs, and will easily go top 15 on form. Time to let it go mate..

I agree. Watching Naughton is like watching a young Wayne Carey all over again. Still only 21 years of age, built like a brick ****house and crashes packs like not other. Hes one of the best young key forwards in the if not already one of the best going around. It's mental he's doing this so young still.

Michelle is a really lovely lady. Got to know her when Clarry was doing bushies (Murray Bushrangers) The sacrifices that lady went through to get Oliver to the position he got to in being drafted is phenomenal.