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I'm not privvy to all club's B&F voting systems, but if there's one worse than Melbourne's I'd be surprised. It heavily favours games played and Neale-Bullen was one of 6 players to play every game. He could have won the thing and it wouldn't change my opinion of him. But yeah, he had a good year and since 2021 has been adequate. Is he a good ordinary player in Jack Dyer parlance ? Debatable. I'm not sure Jack would have been that bullish on the bloke. As for his trade value ? I thought he was a high 30s pick. But I agree he's worth what someone will pay. It can change from year to year and will depend on needs and circumstances. Caleb Daniel, who was barely best 23 at the Dogs, was traded for pick 25. I store little weight in that argument. I'm happy to end the discussion as I'm no longer interested in writing reams, especially for players of Neale-Bullen's calibre.

There's nothing there I haven't read. You mentioned ''scouts'' and ''our eyes watching the under 17 game'', so I expected you'd have information we hadn't seen, instead you've provided generic information available to all. Btw, who the poster supports is utterly irrelevant. We all want White to be a top notch prospect. I have zero idea whether he's anything more than promising. Making the under 16 AA team in 2023 is at least grounds for optimism.

Can you post all of this information ? Thanks. Btw, don't sound so emotional. It's not personal.

This is a post from a St Kilda supporter on another forum re Kalani: ''Had a bit do to with them down on the coast and I'm 99% certain if there was a choice to be made, he would be off to the D's. However, I would be surprised if either club made a play for him. He is not particularly good, and the continued selection in various elite programs does nothing to dispel the claims of nepotism for kids involved in northern academies who have fathers from southern clubs. Talls can develop at different rates though, and there is definitely something there - but he is miles off it currently. Barely got a kick in local u19s this year.'' It's just one person's opinion, but it's good to hear a view from someone with no skin in the game. Let's hope he keeps improving.

Picket, you should give yourself an uppercut, but you'd miss.

He's presently at best 200cm. How on earth is he going to get to 213cm ?

There have always been players that don't use their pace on a footy field. Woewodin has never struck me as being one. Pace certainly wouldn't be his issue in any Neale-Bullen type role. And on checking I see Brayshaw was linked to that time but I find it hard to believe, especially as he was trying to improve his speed according to the same article you've referenced. He never tested at DC and 2.81 was first that year. Brayshaw was never a speedster. Neale-Bullen is a fumbler and a pretty ordinary player. Yes, he improved after we told him to look for a new home at the end of 2020, but he's now being elevated far beyond his station, especially on this platform. Just a player that will be easily covered. Disciplined and committed and a valuable leader, but let's not get carried away by his Craig Lambert type role. My last paragraph is obviously not directed at you.

I never said Woewodin was a good option.

Woewodin was second at his draft combine with a blistering 2.84 seconds. Ability may be his issue, but not pace. Neale-Bullen's spot will be easily filled.

A peculiar selection. Seems a waste of a pick. I'll be mildly shocked if he plays ten AFL games.

He strikes me as a no nonsense type.

I have to join the chorus. Langford and Berry would be a dream outcome for me.

I don't care if we take Lindsay or not, but I will point out that Footy Stuff's videos are not ''highlight'' videos. He's made it quite clear on another forum that he shows the good stuff and the bad, so one can get a better perspective of the player.

I'm sure they'd take Draper at pick 9, but he won't be there. Overlooking Draper at pick 5 due to his kicking simply means they rate one of the other mids higher at pick 5. It doesn't mean they don't rate Draper, but have him lower due to his kicking. Pick 9 is a different issue. If there's a slight knock on Allan's kicking, but they love his other attributes and potential ceiling then they'll weigh up those considerations. And 9 is far from a ''reach'' on Allan. He may not make it to pick 9.

It's ''Allan''. One's a mid forward and the other is a defensive mid. Allan would start at half back before graduating through the midfield. I love the combination.