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No, I'm not. But I am suggesting there's no reason we should fall in a hole and there's no reason a good team can't keep winning.

I see a lot of similarities in our list with Geelong 2007. They won 10.5 games in 2006, which is the year Bomber almost got the bullet. It's not a perfect analogy, because Geelong played finals in 2004 and 2005, nonetheless I think the talent levels are somewhat similar. Early in 2007 Geelong were 2 wins from 5 games and self reflecting after a loss to North at home. Paul Chapman famously addressed his teammates after that loss. Geelong beat Richmond by 157 points in Round 6 to get their season back on track. In fact, they went on to win the next 15 games in a row and lost just one more for the year as they secured their first flag since 1963. Now clearly I'm not suggesting we'll do the same, but this precedent from a young and inconsistent side shows that we haven't necessarily peaked too early. We will lose games. We will play badly where nuffies will get hot under the collar. And there will be plenty of time to regain form. just enjoy what they're doing now.

No disrespect intended, but all you've done is highlight to me that you're utterly ignorant of Islam. And if you're ignorant of the subject you have no way understanding of the issues. It would be like me posting on a soccer forum when I have no clue about the game. Addressing your claim... I doubt you have "dozens of Muslim friends and colleagues", but if I give you the benefit of the doubt and assume there's veracity in your claims then I can assure you they're non practising Muslims. They're Muslim in name only. And for that I'm thankful. We have westernised Muslims living here and abroad and they pose no real danger (certainly not if they're in a country with a very low percentage of population levels). But, as stated, they're not practising Islam as authorised by the Qur'an. There are many non practising Muslims who are ignorant of the Qur'an and hadiths and somewhat shocked when it's explained to them in detail. If their children start attending Mosques then they'll have offspring who do present a clear danger. You're what's wrong with the Left, Jara. You come bounding in here with forceful opinions, but you've got no clue about Islam, the Qur'an, Imams who preach at Mosques, and the agenda of many within our Islamic communities. It's why they consider the Left "useful idiots".

Yeah. It was so unusual for a team not to get stuck into a player in that situation it was very noticeable. It's clearly been an instruction from Goodwin and I like it. Reverse arrogance Although you can see Petracca saying a few words to him (but not looking at him) as he was walking off.

Preseason Carey didn't pick us for the eight. He also harped on about the camp. He doesn't "trust" us. When you have an ego as big as Carey it's hard to let go of your publicly pronounced proclamations. A team that has won the second most quarters in a row in the history of the game deserves a little trust.

I'll ask you again... How do you think Islam treats women and gays ? I'm looking forward to a detailed response. While your at it, give me your take on Rafiki's alarming statistics re the beliefs of Muslims in Middle Eastern countries. We import people with those beliefs.

Thanks for your considered response, but as Rafiki succinctly highlights in the post above yours I don't think you're realise the extent of the issue within Islam and the Middle East. Have you heard of the Muslim Brotherhood's "An Explanatory Memorandum: From the Archives of the Muslim Brotherhood in America" ? It is telling. And if you haven't I suggest you google it. It was written in 1991 and presented as evidence in a USA court case. I'll share this snippet: From the Explanatory Memorandum– the Muslim Brotherhood in America in its own words: “The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.” In a broader sense... There are two main issues for Islam, which are difficult to solve. Firstly, the Qur'an cannot be modernised, as every word is supposed to be that of Allah (and there are unambiguous issues with much of the text). And secondly, unlike Christianity, there's no head figure, or anything like the papacy within Islam providing direction. The radicalisation starts in the mosques, which is also problematic.

Average Attributes Melbourne Attribute Adelaide 187.4cm Height 187.5cm 88.7kg Weight 87.3kg 24yr 11mth Age 25yr 9mth 88.9 Games 103.0 Total Players By Games Melbourne Games Adelaide 9 Less than 50 8 6 50 to 99 3 4 100 to 149 5 3 150 or more 6

A couple of fun facts: Our lowest score over the past 3 weeks is 146 points. Brayshaw and Petracca combined today for 59 disposals and 6 goals.

Brayshaw and Viney in the guts was huge. Combined with our new forward structure we are nothing like the team that lost to Hawthorn early in the year. We would beat them by 10 goals if we played them next week.

Yep

Most quarters won. 21 - Geelong (2010) 18 - Melbourne* (2018) 17 - St Kilda (2005) 16 - Fitzroy (1982), Port Adelaide (2002), St Kilda (2009)

So many words yet not one addresses the real issues. Firstly, being anti Islamism has nothing to do with race. And secondly, there are many Muslims, who have grave concerns about the spread of Islamism. Why do you think many Muslims fear Islam and the intent of many ? I can only assume you've never studied the Qur'an, or are remotely familiar with Islam. Answer me this. How do you think Islam treats women and gays ? I'm looking forward to a detailed response. "No-one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Plato

I had your alter ego on ignore and you haven't improved. Bye.

You truly are Deeluded. He was an ok player. Nothing more.

Lethlean's crime was that he had an affair. How that could preclude him from a senior job is beyond me. He shouldn't have lost his own job. If after a rigorous process he's the best man for the job appoint him. If he's not don't.

There needs to be a mature conversation not the shutting down of debate. Many Muslims went to the West for a better life and most have if not fully assimilated they've blended in. Imam Tawhidi doesn't think "blending in" is good enough, but it will do me, as the alternative doesn't overly thrill me. Unfortunately though, radical Islam is spreading throughout Europe and America. In this short clip Raheem Kassam, who grew up in a Muslim family, points to the dangers of the many Saudi funded Mosques that are spreading throughout the world. It's where the radicalisation starts. I'm interested in peoples views once they've heard him speak. He correctly points out that he's considered the problem, because he wants to have a conversation about the looming threat of Islamism. He's more of a problem than the actual issue. I know how he feels. And yes, he's from Breitbart London and yes Katie Hopkins is on stage too. Cue melts. I'm more interested in your views on his content than his organisation, or who he's sitting with. So can you address what he's saying, or can you only try and smear him personally and his organisation ? As I said, there needs to be a mature conversation about Islam in the West. Let's keep this thread civil and without any abuse.

Hibberd is a far better footballer than Grinter. Far better. I'm around Grinter's age and saw his entire career. He was definitely skilled, but also limited. He was the opposite of a ball magnet, as his 11 disposals per game attest. He just didn't do enough often enough. The Mew bump was great and he hurt others on occasions, but his "toughness" is greatly overplayed by Melbourne supporters. Naturally, it's just my opinion, which admittedly seems to be at odds with most.

The videos have real people expressing real concern. You have no interest in those concerns. Peter Sweden's post was a retweet of a Voice of Europe post. You support Hamas and you think I'm a sorry excuse ? I support Israel and care not of your thoughts of me.

No. Just the club.

Typical of the Left to want silence those with whom they disagree. One just needs to see what is happening at universities across the globe. Go and find your safe space.

Ok, so you're guessing. I recommend you stick to whatever lane you think your lane is. Clearly, making recommendations on player welfare isn't one of them. From what I've read soreness is the key. But I'll leave it to the experts. We'll know soon enough.

You're a joke, Choke, like the other Israel-hating Leftist weirdos. I'm not even Jewish, but I'll support the only democracy in the Middle East when they defend THEIR land against Islamic police states that wish them gone. You decry me posting distasteful videos, but care nothing about the content in them. Islamic migration enriches no country and Europe is now in a state of turmoil. But you don't care. Here (in part) are recent Denmark rape statistics by ethnicity. Once again, you won't care other than the fact I've posted them. And in more recent times reported rapes have doubled in denmark. The world has an Islamic problem and it needs to be discussed, not hidden by Leftists like you.

Unfortunately when an ignored poster is quoted I get to see it. I fully endorse the post you've quoted, dolt. Palestinian children are brainwashed to slaughter as many Jews as they can. It's taught from pre-school. Curtis Chang was murdered by a 15 year old jihadi here in Australia. Brainwashed Islamic kids kill. My heart hardly melts when one of these teenage tyrants meets their maker. You can sob yourself to sleep.

I don't think there's anything wrong with what Wallace said.