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One team had an elite key defender today and one team didn't. May will be super important - along with Lever.

Just a point of correction. It didn't look genius at the time. It was obvious at the time and many here, including me, advocated for it.

The usual hack posters are up in arms. Two top 10 picks won't be enough for Hogan and one is too much for May. They never change.

Incorrect.

Yes, this is also about May and the club working towards improving the list. It's one thing to say that we can play Hogan as a defender and another for the proud forward to actually want to play as a defender. McDonald, Hogan and Weideman in the same forward half simply doesn't work, whereas May coming into our defence is significant to our fortunes. Weideman's progression is key in all of this. The club has always rated him highly and his ability to take contested marks and be BOG in a final would give the club confidence that we can make the best of an unwanted situation. I don't think we win the flag in 2019 with a defence that includes Frost and McDonald. A defence that includes May and McDonald is much better equipped to take that next level. And with Lever back Gawn will be able to push forward more next year rather than drift back to intercept mark. The club will be doing everything to ensure Hogan leaving actually makes us better. May is worth one first rounder and Hogan should yield two. Does the club take the other pick to the draft or use it for more immediate gains. I'm a Hogan fan, but it is possible we improve from his leaving.

I don't know whether we're in "agreement" or not. You don't think much of him as a player and I reckon he has rare talent.

I genuinely don't care much about isolated costs in relation to players. We've previously seen Mahoney and crew look like they're overpaying only to have something else up their sleeve. That said, right now I suspect Kolodjashnij is worth in the 40-50 range. Concussions and lack of recent progress determine this. But the upside is significant. Salem and Fritsch have genuine football talent. Kolodjashnij has no less and I suspect a higher ceiling than those two boys.

I couldn't be more serious. Kolodjashnij has always been a sublime talent, so I have to question someone who doesn't rate his ability. It really doesn't make sense. As for what he's worth ? I don't know nor do I care. That's minutia for me. Some fans worry about that sort of stuff, but I tend not to. Post the trade period I'll look at net gains and net losses and have an opinion as to the success of our trade period.

Then either your assessment of football talent is always poor, often poor, or it's poor in this isolated moment. I doubt it's the latter.

I don't think many need a history lesson. I prefer to live in the here and now. In the last quarter for Casey in the GF he squibbed a marking attempt. It was pea-hearted. He had 5 disposals for the game. It was Casey's biggest game of the year. He's finished.

Because it would have been so easy as a young player in that team and system. He's 23, played 70 games and about to enter his prime. I like him, because I've seen him play. Put him in a quality side and he could be one of the pick ups of the trade period.

You clearly have no idea on his speed, which is very good.

Kade was pick 5 and Jake pick 41. Kade has the most upside and already has a second finish in a B&F. A quick 190cm silky long-kicking left footer. He'd be a great get.

Fail

His pace is good. It's @DeeSpencers one wood to question someone's pace when he really doesn't have a great handle on their pros and cons.

Anyone who equates Kolodjashnij to Balic simply has no clue about the player in question.

Yes. Btw, it's very well known.

Just to put a fullstop on Kolodjashnij's speed. This from Quigley in his draft year: He has really nice pace, is a great jump and he judges his closing speed really well. He works hard and is a big kick so is dangerous anywhere out to 55. Athletically Kolodjashnij is a stand out and he was one of the stars of the Combine. He killed the jumps finishing first in the standing vertical and right foot jump and was in the top 20% of his non-preferred left foot. He went under 3 seconds in the 20m and was just outside the top 10% in the 3km. He managed to go over 14 in the beep and his agility and repeat sprint were in the top half. Overall he is one of the most impressive athletes in this draft and when you combine that with the fact that he is actually a very good footballer he is an attractive package for teams in an age of "running height".

Yes, people often incorrectly say he was a Dockers fan. He supported the Crows.

You seem to think pace is an issue with everyone. Earlier in the year, AFL Tasmania high performance manager Matthew Armstrong spoke to Bound For Glory News and gave a glowing review to the best rebounding defender in the draft, Kade Kolodjashnij. He described him as an extremely hard worker mentioning he was “quick, shows leadership and has a great work ethic”.

This guy is a genuine talent. Tall, silky, left footer. Half-back or even use his aerobic ability to run the wings. He could be just what we need. A genuine talent and natural footballer.

He's now moving to Adelaide ?

Do you think your comment is some sort of revelation to me ? It's painfully obvious I'm speculating on a thread full of speculation. But if you're familiar at all with Cerra you'll know that Freo were nervous about Cerra and he's often been talked about as a flight risk. It was a relief and somewhat surprising to many in the industry when he decided to extend. I've already said he's a longshot, but he's the type of player that would make Hogan leaving palatable. Any more pearls of wisdom ?

Didn't McGovern just extend his Contract with Adelaide ?

I agree re Petty. He has very good upside. I don't care whether Frost stays or goes (as long as he's covered).