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I'd day more than that. The Lewis free was rubbish. The free that led to the 50 against Oliver was rubbish. The 50 against Melksham was rubbish. The 50 against Tyson and Viney for entering the protected zone was there. That's 4. Plus they got goals from two players handballing to runners on the F50 because we were asleep. I've probably missed something. Everything that could go wrong did. Coaching, selection, players.

I have faith, you don't. No problem.

I get why you think that way, but none of those teams concern me if we can sort out some structures and ball moment.

But let me add, if we don't we don't. You get what you deserve in footy. Nothing is gifted to you. Much like life.

Unlike others, I don't subscribe to this "top teams" theory and I think our best is better than most. I understand why the soyboys posting here lose hope after a loss like this, but I don't. I'll leave that to our horde of frightbats. I think 12 wins and good percentage will get you there.

We missed Spargo more than Stretch. After last week I was sure he would come in. When Lever went down so did our season. We definitely have arguably the poorest tall defenders in the league. I was wrong about Frost. I'm not a fan, but he's a better option than Petty at the moment. Gee we lacked composure. We have poor systems moving the footy between the arcs. The amount of times our tall forwards spoilt each other was incredible. A gherkin a couple of pages back said Viney is slow. Give up footy. Pace is one of his assets, d-wad. But he certainly had to be freed up early in the game, not late. I'd rather he didn't tag at all. We went in with one too many talls. Does anyone know how many goals they were gifted from bs free kicks and those xxxxxxx 50 metre penalties ? The 10 metre protected zone is the worst rule in footy. I agree it's not an excuse. The second worst is having to nominate a ruckman. Schoolyard stuff. There's much to work on, but I'm confident we'll still play finals, which will be an important part of the development. Btw, I xxxxxxx hate umpires. EDIT: I twice spelt metre metre and my xxxxxxx phone still auto corrected to make it meter.

I'm very impressed by Filipovic's minus 4 DT points.

Stick to soccer, pommy.

28 disposals and six score involvements to 3/4 time. Having another cracking game is Gaff.

Thank you. I feel better now.

I'm of the view that you talk to as many people as you can and then disseminate the information. Know that there may be biases in play and form conclusions accordingly. If you ask enough of the right questions you can usually get an accurate guide.

From her article. Balme, Walsh and the bloke who conducted the internal Collingwood investigation were supposedly not interviewed. That doesn't sound like proper due diligence to me. How do you know it was done ? Why are you so defensive ? Do you know all the facts, or are you just another blind faith supporter that is convinced their club can do no wrong ?

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We've scored more goals than anyone else in the competition, including Richmond who've played one more game. The only other team that can reach our goal tally this round is Collingwood if they score 17 goals. And that's also with a one game advantage. The last thing you need to worry about is our scoring.

He needs 4 games to reach 100 for the MFC. Will he get there... ?

Agreed. That Melksham free against is arguably the worst decision this year. He kicks that and we win I suspect. How you could be "worried" by last week is beyond me. It shows a complete lack of understanding of a game you apparently love. We smashed a top eight interstate team on their own dunghill in just about every metric that matters. 19 times out of 20 we win that game and your takeaway is to be very "worried" ? You're not the most nuanced supporter, are you ?

Clearly, I think differently to other people. I thought the article was well written and very informative. It gave me a walk through what key personnel and stakeholders were thinking, as well as what they did and didn't do. I like to be informed about my club, not kept in the dark, and I'm more aware for having read it. I also didn't feel there was any bias, just reporting of events, as well as inferences, which goes with the territory when you're tying together perspectives from all angles of those with competing interests. This Board has runs on the board so I'll back the appointment, although it appears not all due diligence has been as thorough as one would have liked. I also would have liked some input from Jackson whether that is considered de rigueur or not.

I've got you on ignore, but a quirk of the system is seeing an ignored poster's content when you happen to post at the same time. Once again, thanks Captain Obvious. But anyone who watched Richmond last year knows their game was light years better in the back half of the season when compared to the first half. Including when they lost 3 games in a row by under a goal in rounds 7-9. Imagine the carry on by their nuffies at the time. They also trained all year to play two talls, this changed with the injury to Ben Griffiths. It ended up being the best thing that happened to them.

I'm aware of all that. Melbourne will play finals this year, but I agree that we're exceedingly unlikely to win a premiership in 2018. Unlike Richmond, when we start playing at the pointy end regularly, I don't believe it will take our 4th finals series in a 5 year stretch to win a final. Much depends on whether you've got to go interstate, but unlike others, I don't see many of these "top teams" that regularly get referenced.

The point being Richmond were able to sort out their issues IN SEASON. I don't believe the season is lost and some of what you and others are complaining about can be sorted out before the year's out. The wrist slitting by some is way too premature. As for what we've all seen thus far ? Pointing out the obvious is pointing out the obvious. Some just don't agree that it's "stage fright" or some other nebulous view from SWYL over what happened in 1970 repeating itself.

Really ? They're usually a 9 month recovery from memory, which puts him in the frame for round 1. Obviously they won't rush him, but I'd expect the first few rounds.

Yet in rounds 7, 8, and 9 last year they lost 3 consecutive games by under a goal. How quickly people forget the journey of other clubs as they're mired down with the negativity of their own.. Their best 6 players are: Martin 191 games, Rance 189, Riewoldt 239, Cotchin 211, Edwards 221, and let's say Lambert with 66 ahead of Caddy, Vlastuin and a couple of others. That's 1,117 games experience. Our best 6 (within reason) Gawn 87, Viney 93, Oliver 48, Hogan 64, T. McDonald 134, and Jones 252. Cases could be mounted for Jetta, Hibberd ... That's 678 games. Richmond have been building towards this form and competitiveness for a long time. When their best players had similar games experience they were being called Ninthmond. I'd argue that at the same stage of development we're a better list and team. And we're learning quickly.

We haven't proven anything yet. You've proven plenty.

You do realise that a young team that hasn't played finals in 12 years isn't going to play to their best every round ? In fact, no 2018 team. I mean, you do realise that, right ?

Three of those losses were in the first five rounds when we were playing "shizen". I note you don't extend the same liberty to Melbourne as you do to Essendon and North when they were supposedly playing "shizen". Even though we played North off a win.. You do realise Viney and Tom McDonald didn't play in those first 5 rounds ? You do realise we're structuring our forward-line differently now ? You do realise Brayshaw wasn't playing midfield then ? You do realise we were getting caught out the back more then - still are, but those first few rounds were worse. You do realise Salem was playing mid then and he's now gone down back ? So many things have changed from those first 5 rounds. How many sides do you think are playing the same as they were in rounds 1 or 2 ? Hawthorn have since lost to Brisbane and Geelong to Essendon. As have West Coast. This idea that there are these top teams who are "so good" is BS, friend.