Gator

I'll let the coaches worry how to best structure up, but logically it makes no sense to me that a young key forward, who is about to come in to his peak playing years, doesn't make us better. Zero sense at all.

Pay the peaheart out.

A quality coaching group can construct a plan to include a quality young key position player who's only going to get better. The concept that he makes us worse is a nonsense.

Ablett 3 votes in round 1 ? He was a seagull.

That would make sense.

I've been told that a Melbourne player who lined up in the prelim will be at the Saints next year, but I don't know the name. I can only guess Tyson, even though I doubt he's what they need.

We need to keep turning the list over. Delist: Garlett, Bugg, McKenna, Keilty, Vince, Balic, Johnstone, King I'd offer Pedersen one more year as cover. I'd potentially re-rookie Johnstone. I'm not a fan of Tim Smith, but suspects he gets another year. I'm not fussed about Filipovic, so stay or go. I believe Garlett has one more year, but I'd pay him out.

Agree. For me it's the feeder side purely to develop our AFL team. You'd prefer they win, but it's no big deal for me. Although, you can't help but get annoyed when Melbourne listed players turn it over, etc.

Under pressure Frost and McDonald's skills, or lack thereof, were exposed. I don't want both in the same backline. I prefer (depending on matchups) to play two key defenders plus Lever, but not those two. We got through two finals with them, but I don't think you want to try and go all the way with both.

2019 should be Jones' last year. He's just about finished. I know he'd like to play for another 4-5 years, but next year should be his last. Tyson has to go. He's been pushed to the outside and simply isn't good enough there. Lewis is finished. Frost and Oscar were comical. And I wouldn't play Lever and Frost in the same team. We lack composure and class through the midfield and flanks. Imo, organic growth won't be enough to go to the next step. I doubt I've seen more fumbling and players falling over in my time watching footy. It's been a very good year, but there should be career ramifications for that performance.

Portent of things to come ? Stuff portent of things to come. You make the most of an opportunity when it's there. Seize the moment.

I was very confident against Geelong and Hawthorn, but not so today. Even with a loss it's been a huge year and a portent of things to come.

You're eligible if your senior side is still playing.

Connors

http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=30708

I posted in the Gaff thread that I had mail from a prominent player manager... Said manager also said (and he doesn't manage Hogan so it's just an educated opinion), that if Hogan wanted to go home, and he has no clue if he does and would be surprised if he wanted to leave the Dees, he didn't think he'd want to go to Freo. He says the constant referencing of Freo was misleading. In his opinion he'd want to go to West Coast. Freo might want Hogan, but he said he'd be very surprised if Hogan wanted freo.

Jones and vandenBerg have been playing the wing role in conjunction with Tyson. The three of them have been rotating through there for about 6 weeks. I want continuity with all players knowing their role. Fritsch has recently been playing in defence. I don't want him now trying on a new role in a cutthroat final. So, to answer your question, Tyson. 2019 is a whole new ball game and it will be interesting what roles the coaches decide to give to certain players over summer. Fritsch is yet to have a full preseason, so I expect a better, stronger, fitter version of him next year in whatever role they decide to give him.

Time waster.

His name is *Bayley, not Bailey.

Smith isn't in for his disposal count, he's in for his speed, size, agression and athletic profile. He's a manic tackler. He's a better "defender" than Fritsch. Smith isn't suited to being the second tall, but is a quality third tall. His selection also provides versatility. Smith is 191cm. He's the same height as Darling. When Vardy is forward Oscar can take him and Smith has the size and prowess to nullify Darling, while Frost takes Kennedy. It's all about matchups. It's a very good selection.

I never understand why people exaggerate like this. It's just a stupid comment. He's not "prolific" or particularly damaging in his wing role, which is the issue. As an inside mid he's quite serviceable. He's been pushed out by Brayshaw.

We have Nicholls again.

I too suspect there'll be no change, but if there was I think it will be the one I mooted.