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Just another 10 disposal player who won't make a shred of distance to our team. You don't see him for three quarters then he'll have a purple patch for 10 minutes. He's not what I'd call a quality role player who'll improve you.

How the hell don't I have you on ignore ? Fixed.

These days, no-one expects a wingman to be the hard man of footy, but having watched Baker closely my two main issues are that he's incredibly soft and has virtually zero hurt factor with his possessions (yes yes he kicked two goals). Jimmy Toumpas was probably the softest outside player I've seen at Melbourne. Baker is in that category. Toumpas notoriously had shocking contested possession numbers in junior footy, which should have been a red flag, but even Jimmy's percentage of CP at AFL level just shades Baker's. Tom Scully is as outside as you get and his percentage is almost double. This isn't reliant on total possessions, but percentage of, which is an important distinction. Put simply, Baker isn't list worthy. If we don't go all out to solve our (opposite) wing issues I'll be dismayed. And I'll know there's zero chance of a flag in 2021. Talk about a wing and a prayer... EDIT: I hasten to add that my views on Baker first came from visuals, the good old-fashioned eye test. The stats came about because I was curious to see if what I was seeing was borne out.

Give them a cuddle for me.

Wow. The Holy Redeemer. Not.

Rohan possibly has the worst finals record in history. If you can't perform in finals you're as useful as a cold pie.

Unfortunately, there won't be a club stupid enough to take on his contract. The best we can hope for is someone is prepared to pay $500K and we stump up the rest. I'm desperate for him to go as it just might allow us to snag a decent player at the death knell. Understandably, there's little interest.

Imagine thinking you're a top 4 side, which you need to be to win a flag, with Oskar Baker on a wing. It beggars belief.

You're probably right, but they'll still save $3mil over 5 years. Brayshaw is a tough one. He's the one player that could really burn you if the penny ever drops. If we can't get his role right then you're better off doing a deal. Can we get him to his full potential ? Can he commit to being the best he can be ? I do worry about Treloar's hamstrings, so would rather not trade a good player for him. The Pies are desperate to salary dump, so it's a buyers market.

I agree the hamstrings are an issue. But if you can just answer one question. If his kicking is as bad as suggested how would he have been rewarded with 3 top 3 B&F finishes in the 4 years prior to this season ? Also, have you ever laid eyes on him and watched him play ?

Yep, Treloar butchers every kick forward and his pace and spread from a stoppage is not something the MFC needs.

It's reportedly $900K for the next 5 years. If Collingwood paid $300K for the next 5 years Treloar costs you $600K. And he makes you better.

Obviously, which is why he finished top 3 in their B&F three times in 4 years. Idiots get ignored.

Is that the level of your analysis ?

Clearly, no other club is taking over his contract in its current form.

I'd argue that one of our biggest problems is spread from the midfield. Opposition clubs know that if they match us in the contest they can get us on the outside. Guess what Treloar excels at ?

He played 10 games and it was a bad year. But he's had very good years, including 2016, 2017 and 2019 when he finished top 3 in their B&F. He only kicked one goal this year, but let's not overlook years where he kicked 12, 13, 14, 13, 13, 12 and 10. They're very good goal kicking numbers for a midfielder. This year his D/E went at 60%, which is horrible. But over his career his D/E is 70.4%, which is fine. So, do we think the season just gone is the outlier, or the rest of his career ?

I agree with Deespencer. Having your two key forwards as pressure merchants is significant. In fact, it ranks 179 out of 180 on my list of crucial game day acts.

There are so many exaggerations at this time of year. Treloar's kicking in 2020 was most definitely below standard, but it hasn't always been poor. It's dropped away, but I dont have the expertise to know whether that's hamstring related or even a mental issue to do with his hamstrings. While never a great kick he's certainly been an acceptable kick. Dangerfield isn't a great kick either. Nor is Fyfe. Treloar has finished top 3 in the Pies B&F on 3 occasions out of five. The other two years he didn't play enough games due to injury to figure. Injury permitting he'd be a fantastic pickup for Melbourne and exactly the type of mid we're lacking and need.

McKerrnan is much better in the ruck than Brown. Have you seen Brown ruck ? I'm guessing not. Look, I couldn't give a rat's toss bag about McKernan, but with Preuss going we'll need mature backup in the ruck. Brown will NEVER cut it. So if not McKernan someone else.

As Old has mentioned, McKernan makes perfect sense. We need a mature ruck backup. Mitch Brown is hopeless in the ruck and Jackson is a baby. If Gawn is injured there's no mature backup. If it's not McKernan it will have to be someone else.

Brown will play for Melbourne for the next few years. I'm pleased without being ecstatic. BUT I'm not ''underwhelmed'' by this bloke, as some seem to be. In 3 years - 2017-2019 - he kicked the MOST goals in the AFL (188 frigging goals), which is no mean feat. And he hardly had the best midfield slotting it down his throat. I watched every one of his 65 goals from 2019 and two thirds did NOT come from leads. They were a combination of frees, contested marks, tackles, ground balls, and general play. And plenty of the goals from ''leads'' were not lace-out. In fact, only a few were. Plenty were just getting separation with smart leads and speed. Both Brown and Weideman cover a lot of territory. It's great that Weideman will get the second tall. Jackson will relieve ruck, play a bit on-ball, occasionally push deep as well as resting on the bench. It's a good get for the MFC.

May/Langdon.

Interesting. They're only 4 months apart in age and both played junior footy at Beverley Hills Football Club. Good get, BRFE.

There is literally no chance Cameron isn't at Geelong next year. It's zero.