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Unless you're a delusional liniment sniffer you'd realise it's over for Goodwin. He's finished. I'll be amazed if he sees out the season.

Goodwin is in his 9th year as senior coach, but for all intents and purposes was the senior coach in Roos' last year, so arguably 10. How long is too long to be subjected to the same voice ? There are exceptions to every rule, such as Sheedy and Chris Scott, but in my view he's had a good run. The message may be getting stale. So much has happened since the premiership that it's hard not to think that the club and players needs a new voice. It also needs some clean air. How good would some clean air be ? I expect we'll get back on track at some point during this year, it may even be tomorrow night, but in my view it's time for a change. Reinvigoration won't be guaranteed, but for me, Goodwin has run his course.

To be brutally honest I wasn't mad on the new format. I'm probably not mad on change in general. Until I switched to dark mode. It's great.

If you're not over his horrible disposal and terribly dumb decision making I'm not sure you're breathing. If it wasn't bad enough that he cost us the final against Carlton, he then screws the club at the end of last year in order to extend his contract by taking advantage of the mess the club was in with Petracca, Oliver and Pickett. His one in 6 or 7 ''hard'' games, when he actually does play well, doesn't suffice. The cliff comes quickly for some players and it's come for him. And he's here for 4 more years !! Lamb is a moron who blinked and I doubt Goodwin has the balls to drop him. Just stuck with him.

I agree with Gonzo. Ideally you want to keep your best players, including Brand and Oliver, especially as the return for them with regards to draft picks will no longer be there. What a shame we're stuck with Viney, who held the club to ransom when they were at their most vulnerable. He's hopeless. He can't kick or make good decisions. The game really has gone past him. There are just too many very ordinary players. I thought we were past watching players like Johnson, Turner, Sharp, Billings, Howes, and others, run around, but no, it's our reality. Things can turn around quickly but Goodwin is finished. Thanks for the flag but after 9 years it's over.

Obviously the Gawn issue was a non-story, although it once again highlighted Goodwin's, at times, poor judgement. I just wished the club would shut up. Stop talking about love, stop talking about connection, stop talking about individuals, just STFU. But, of course, that's not happening. Goodwin is on 360 and channel 7 tonight. It's a complete waste of time, because he'll either say something stupid, or be his typically boring self.

I don't expect other posters to remember my views on players but let's just say I'm a Harvey Langford fan. But I was quite underwhelmed with him on Sunday. I don't know whether it's just his manner but for me he lacked urgency and intensity around the contest (obviously not late in the last quarter near the boundary), he dropped marks he should have taken, including a 15 metre sitter kicked by Campbell, he has a weakness with ground-balls, no better epitomised than when a rolling ball clean bowled him through his legs, and he fumbled numerous times in tight at stoppages, including CBAs. He's a first year player, so you accept he's got a lot to learn, but it wasn't a performance that would elevate him to the senior team for me.

That's not the reason. He's soft.

I tend to agree. I think our best 18 is pretty strong, especially the backs and mids, but we fall away quickly with some very average players. I can't get excited by Jefferson, Turner, Johnson, Chandler and a few others.

Didn't you spend your life defending this bloke and his performanaces ?

I'd leave Petty back, but wouldn't be averse to McDonald trying to replicate his Plugger days up forward.

Last year on a Sunday at the exact same starting time Richmond played the same team and had 4,000 less people at the game (19,040). Richmond have a huge supporter base. And there was no grand prix to contend with. Perspective.

Neale-Bullen replicated the Kane Lambert role.

AFL debutantes or MFC debutantes. Sharp is one, but not the other.

Apparently he enjoys the actual training, as in on the green stuff, but doesn't enjoy all the little extras that the pros do. Some call all that extra stuff training too and consider it super important to ever maximise your potential. I suspect it will come in time.