Watts the matter

Milera, Rioli, Gresham and Burton. Florin maybe also, but I haven't seen him play much.

His handballs were standard handballs, nothing more, nothing less. For much of the game he was also opposed to a first gamer (he did have Gibson at times). I think if you look back on his stats prior to joining the AFL you will also see that he was a low possession, low mark player. At this stage his attributes are those of a giant KPP. In the mould of a Hawkins, Boyd, Patton. The problem is he will never be that big. Interesting way of looking at it. I actually have a very different take on it and query why we have gone need specific with such an early pick. It seems like Luke Molan, Lucas Cook all over again. Some very handy smaller types taken just after Weideman in his draft. Then there is also this years draft to take into account as we forced our way out of it because we were so determined to draft a KPP.

CC, I remember him posting on here shortly after.

I'm not sure if you missed the point. They were drafted in different years.

No different to Brayshaw.

Sufficient I think you mean. They took Ellis with pick 12 and lever went pick 14.

Ohhh you reminded me, can confirm from training two weeks ago that he does wear a mouthguard. Takes it out quite often between play.

Good game and nice to see him getting a lot more of the ball through to the end. Still has a lot of work to do defensively, a prime example was priddis goaling in the second quarter. Oliver was ball watching after the centre bounce while priddis streamed forward and had 30m space. Tried to catch up but was too far behind.

As the poster did not state a trade, they may have meant a 4th round as compensation, so it is is probably worth mentioning that 4th rounders are not available as compensation for free agents.

Of course it is. The poster implied (IMO) that Taylor had a fantastic record which I believe is not the case and would have made a great pick at selection 30. Agree to disagree if you can't see that. I have stated I think Hunt is a good pick yet you keep bringing it up. My point is other recruiters picked up players of similar quality with similar picks. Many quality players were taken between JKH and Hunt which other recruiters have equally nailed. Salem is probably what causes us to have a different opinion on Taylor, I think he had to make a good pick at 57 to make up for the 2 picks prior to this while you think he has done well at pick 9 and 57. My issue with the JKH and ANB selections are more their attributes or lack of certain attributes which was always going to make it hard for them to succeed. Obviously you're not going to nail every pick and sometimes luck can make you look like a superstar in recruiting. I don't believe he has been bad, but my original point was I don't believe he has a great record like some on here, including you, make out. Will be interesting to read in a few years.

Semantics, the poster I responded to stated Jason Taylor's potential pick would make us sad. It was pick 30. The nearest picks he has had have been JKH and ANB and neither player excites me in any way. Second part, fair enough. I stated some good players were taken around this pick. For instance Essendon went into the draft with pick 26 and 55 and ended up with Merrett and Fantasia, that is something that would make me think the recruiter was a genius. But as I have stated I think it was a good pick. Third part, Salem was a disappointment this year prior to his injury. Players often get overrated by fans when they are injured and this appears to be the case here. While he does have many assets which will be valuable his inability to spread at speed is a concern as is best his position at AFL level. This has moved somewhat from drafting to recruitment and while I don't agree with many of the assessments I would say Mahoney, Viney and Roos would be just as responsible for many of these decision. Not sure if it's an oversight with Zach Merrett or you just don't rate him? Right under our nose at Sandy.

The jury is still out IMO. 2013 draft return looking average, not great like many here would have you believe. Salem this far a disappointment for pick 9. JKH a poor selection. Hunt a good selection but other recruiters took some good players around the same pick. Harmes an adequate pick. 2014 OK once again. 2,3 - Petracca, Brayshaw picked themselves, but interesting we didn't bid on Moore who looks a better player than the latter. Wright wasn't in the discussion but looking back now he should have been. Have read in Emma Quayles book that we told him he would have to be a ruckman at AFL level and not a forward. Not sure if this is Roos' philosophy or JT's. Stretch FS. Don't rate ANB and didn't at the time of the draft. McDonald is a player with clear limitations but at this pick that's a pass. AVB an OK pick. 2015. This one has me the most nervous. Oliver a fantastic pick but Weideman has me worried (not just based on his 2 games), more his playing style and the way footy is being played. Has a lack of agility, ability to get involved in the game without marking and poor - average field kicking along with some of the worst defensive efforts I have seen. This was clearly the biggest risk he has taken at the draft so it will be interesting to see how it pans out. Hullett is looking promising from all reports but have barely seen him. Also I have mentioned this part before, but the fact he rated Lewis Taylor in the top 9 players in the 2013 draft is concerning.

Is this the biggest myth on Demonland?

I think this quote was from his pre-game interview with triple M. Jay Clark was stating it as fact that Hibberd was coming to Melbourne and Goodwin had to play it down a bit. He handled the interview well but you could tell it's a done deal.

Interesting you say this, while he does evade quite well I would say his agility is poor for a player of his size. He seems to have a rather large turning circle and his evasive moves normally result in him going the wrong way. He is tracking nicely but this would be my main concern along with his slow ball drop at this stage.

According to Tim Watson, it happened during the game about 20 minutes after hitting Ebert.

He had 24 goals after 10 games last season. Keep in mind he only played the 20 games in 2015. He is doing a little bit more so far this season, but his goal kicking is stopping him from showing huge improvement. It would be a great result if he could get 60 goals. From memory I think he would have been 1st or 2nd in the league for contested marks at this point of the season in 2015.

Not true at all.......