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Fair enough, maybe I’m not giving him enough credit. I otherwise agree with the sentiment. I hate the stuff you see in media/socials about the Petracca, Gawn etc feeling sorry for them for the way the club is performing. They’re leaders.. it’s on them as much as anyone. And so the sentiment around coach loyalty is similar I suppose. Ie. You’re highly paid, elite players.. if you’re [censored] about the coach getting sacked, well then that’s on you for not delivering as a leader, and one of the teams better players.

I’m surprised there is a lack of concern about Kozzy in these parts, given he signed a long term contract allegedly in part because of his relationship with goody. If nothing else, we have worked hard to make this a family for him, so destabilisation would surely only exacerbate his homesickness. Of course I know we have him under contract, but wait for the media frenzy. We may get a big haul back for him if he was to force his way out.. but I would vomit in my mouth every weekend to see him playing in oppo colours.

This place is toxic. Thousands and thousands of posts on sacking Goodwin, gets sacked, and in response thousands of posts on how much of a joke the club is. The club can’t win. Maybe us supporters should be looking in the mirror a bit too. Love you goody, thanks for some fantastic memories. Enter Longmire please.

I have to say, I’ve been withholding from saying this for weeks, but might as well just say it now.. I really don’t like the Sack Goody thread. I understand why it exists, it’s a reasonable discussion, but reading through it sometimes all I see is spite, and anger. Goodwin presided over a great time for our club, during a very difficult period. For several years there we were standard setters, and if not for poor kicking on the day, and a career ending hit to one of our favourite sons.. who knows, maybe we would’ve got our MCG premiership. I feel like that gets forgotten too much on that thread, as it does in this discussion. I’ve come around to the notion that Goody needs to go, but I will also respect him immensely for what he gave us and feel uncomfortable with the way he is often spoken about in this place.

But you can’t put the cart before the horse. It would be inappropriate for him to cast doubt on the coach’s position without due process, there would be a feeding frenzy in the press.

Felt he just needed to say something I guess. Clearly he’s been overwhelmed with feedback and wanted to acknowledge it. I don’t mind it. Will see what comes now..

Would you prefer he didn’t write one? What would you have said instead?

What’s he supposed to say..? I appreciate the acknowledgement and thought the absence of outward support for Goody as head coach was telling

Do we need to talk about Viney and Oliver being back in the side together again, at the same time Rivers turns in to a pumpkin and we become the butcher again? Shocking, and yet wholly unsurprising disposal from Oliver/Viney

Upfront I’ll admit I have a soft spot and may be a touch blinkered. But.. I just think he does a lot of things that don’t get noticed. It’s what he does without the ball, as they say. And, when he has the ball he rarely does the wrong thing.. I like the notion of Brown for defensive pressure, but I’d be a lot more comfortable with the ball in Spargo’s hands that Kynans.

By placeholder I meant he’s not the future. He’s there to shepherd the next generation through.. Otherwise agree, he’s been terrific.

As much as I’ve been a fan of Melky this year, the reality is he’s a placeholder.. we need to find out what we have in Jefferson. Big games coming up for both him and JVR in the context of their careers.

And that is Spargo. Has never got it a lot, but when he is around the ball, good things generally happen. Underrated on here imo.

Tom Sparrow take a bow! Terrific role player game. Intensity and tackling have been fantastic.

Fullarton didn’t get outmarked and was able to get the ball to ground. It’s a lot better than JVR was doing. Stays for now.

What you just know you’ll get from Tholstrup is energy and enthusiasm. Given how we’re playing, if for no other reason, you get him in for that.

Are you serious? JVR has been garbage. Hot, garbage. Calling his manager? Go for it, he’ll probably get told to pull his head in and play better

Who do you put in to the midfield instead..? There’s nothing there.. A statement was made, on players that we all acknowledge were out of form. At least the midfield will have something new to kick to, maybe it’s the spark.

You know what.. not such a bad outcome to have them playing together in the VFL. Guarantee easier opposition than AFL, build them up together, get them in form together, then bring them back to the AFL. Together. Goodwin, for all his flaws, was at a hiding to nothing this week. What does he have to choose from? People crowing for change, got them, but call him crazy for selections.

Seriously… should we just rename Demonland to SackGoodwin-land??? Every single chat I go in to it’s wall to wall whingeing about Goodwin.. I get it, but point made, move on. On selection… I wonder if we just want more speed up forward, and put the acid on JVR. You’re one out.. bring the ball to ground. Might also get a lot of peoples wish for fritsch to play closer to goal.

It’s not neutral, it’s a net negative. When he’s kicking we’re often running forward so when it lands in the oppositions hands we are all caught goal side, so the opponent has an open park in front of them. Big reason why the sling shot is so devastating. It also means other players are less eager to get proactive, so they end up sitting back more, making our offence stagnate. Super net negative.

Yeah a bit harsh on Langford. He’s played 3 games

I hate using this expression, but Petty is soft. Doesn’t want it, doesn’t want the contest. Can’t play again. JVR playing young… immature tactically, immature physically.

Sure, but they had speed and kicking talent through the midfield. We have Oliver, and Viney.. god love them.

I mean say what you want about the game, but we have no forward line.. none. No key position player, no talls. Van Rooyen looks barely a VFL player. No team is winning with that. And then you add Petty…