As long as McNamee is better than Steve Harris and the 'Snake Skin Salesman' I'll be happy!

The news about McNamee is clearly the most newsworthy item that Denham had, so it was up the top of the story and the headline refers to it.

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How is the item about McNamee "clearly" the most newsworthy? He simply states that McNamee wasn't an original applicant to the position, but has agreed to talk to the headhunting company. He's about as close to being our next CEO as I am, and it doesn't warrant being the headline item, if news of Chris Judd's confirmed return to the playing field is also included in his list of stories.

The issue I have with the journalism is not the length of press we received, but as to why he'd include 2 on-field related stories under a headline of a minor off-field story. If McNamee is close to being our CEO, it should be considered a major stand-alone article. If not, it should be a throwaway line amongst other football news items.

Paul McNamee as CEO?

Could be the first step in getting Todd Viney back to the club.

How is the item about McNamee "clearly" the most newsworthy?

Because he's one of the pre-eminent sporting administrators in the nation and if the MFC landed him, it would be a huge coup. News about Judd has been floating around for weeks, if not months, and Carlton has consistently maintained that he'll be ready close to round 1. One of those items is "news" in the truest sense of the word and it's not Judd.

He simply states that McNamee wasn't an original applicant to the position, but has agreed to talk to the headhunting company. He's about as close to being our next CEO as I am

That's newsworthy, because McNamee has expressed interest in the position after being tapped up by the headhunters. This is not something that was previously known. And it's probably exclusive to The Australian, hence they want to give it prominence.

It doesn't warrant being the headline item, if news of Chris Judd's confirmed return to the playing field is also included in his list of stories.

The editorial staff at The Aus clearly disagree. As do I.

The issue I have with the journalism is not the length of press we received, but as to why he'd include 2 on-field related stories under a headline of a minor off-field story.

Is it considered minor that the MFC is a chance of poaching one of the country's pre-eminent sporting adminstrators, who's run the Australian Open tennis and golf over the past 15 years and who has one of the finest network of corporate and sponsorship contacts in the country? I don't think so, and I don't think most Melbourne fans think so either.

If McNamee is close to being our CEO, it should be considered a major stand-alone article.

Agreed. But McNamee's not close to being our CEO and The Australian's article hasn't said that. Therefore, it's not a major stand-alone article and neither could it be, without contacts going on-record.

If not, it should be a throwaway line amongst other football news items.

I disagree. If former rugby union and soccer executive John O'Neill was among the list of candidates for a vacant CEO job at Collingwood, do you think that would be a throwaway line in The Australian? No, it wouldn't. Hence, there's no reason why a similar situation at Melbourne shouldn't head The Aus's Wednesday AFL column, which wraps up all the AFL news on the quietest sports news day of the week.

You've just been 'owned', Mo.

I'd quit while your well behind.

You've just been 'owned', Mo.

I'd quit while your well behind.

Not yet. The article initially states that McNamee was interested in the job. It then goes on to say that he's "agreed to discuss it with the headhunting company". In other words, McNamee didn't express interest in the role, rather the headhunting company expressed interest in him. McNamee has given the headhunting company the courtesy of a meeting, nothing else. It's a bit premature to say that he's a candidate for the role. A minor news story in my opinion.

In other words, McNamee didn't express interest in the role, rather the headhunting company expressed interest in him. McNamee has given the headhunting company the courtesy of a meeting, nothing else.

Mo, if McNamee had no interest in the role, he would have told the headhunters to go forth and multiply.

It's a bit premature to say that he's a candidate for the role. A minor news story in my opinion.

And no one's said he's a candidate for the job. He has simply expressed interest in the role, by agreeing to meet with the recruitment company to discuss the position.

Yes, it's a minor news story among several minor news stories, but it's the most newsworthy of those published in The Australian today and it is not poor journalism, as you sarcastically implied in your first post.

It is poor reporting, not so much poor that he has reported on it and had an exclusive rather it is poor delivery. Why combine these stories under one headline, why can't the story be padded out to include a little bit of history of the candidate or at least some of the other options Melbourne have for CEO? If it were collingwood it would have been on the back page of the heraldsun.

It is poor reporting, not so much poor that he has reported on it and had an exclusive rather it is poor delivery. Why combine these stories under one headline, why can't the story be padded out to include a little bit of history of the candidate or at least some of the other options Melbourne have for CEO? If it were collingwood it would have been on the back page of the heraldsun.

It's a little thing called space constraints. Contrary to the expectations of football fans, editorial space is not unlimited in newspapers. Particularly not in a national newspaper on a Wednesday outside the football season. You've unwittingly supplied the reason why the story was short when you used the word "padded". There's precious little room for padding in a paper like The Aus.

In case you hadn't noticed, I'm mighty tired of uninformed people bagging journalists and reporters for no good reason, other than the supporter's own inherent ignorance and bias.

When journalists deserve a kicking, I'm all for letting them know about it, but so much of the criticism levelled at the profession is unwarranted.

If people had any idea of the importance that most journalists place on their integrity, and the hoops that a story has to jump through in order to be published, they'd be wary of ever accusing journalists of "making things up".

I'm mighty tired of uninformed people bagging journalists and reporters for no good reason, other than the supporter's own inherent ignorance and bias.

When journalists deserve a kicking, I'm all for letting them know about it, but so much of the criticism levelled at the profession is unwarranted.

Couldn't agree more Mikey.

Paul McNamee as CEO?

Could be the first step in getting Todd Viney back to the club.

could you please explain that?....also i for some reason that i cant i want macnamee at this club...great tennis player but i dont like his social attributes if that makes any sense...i dont think that he is too easy to get along with...i cant say anymore lol...sorry to be an idiot

My dad?

i wish <_<

My dad?

i wish <_<

Clarify?

It's a little thing called space constraints. Contrary to the expectations of football fans, editorial space is not unlimited in newspapers. Particularly not in a national newspaper on a Wednesday outside the football season. You've unwittingly supplied the reason why the story was short when you used the word "padded". There's precious little room for padding in a paper like The Aus.

In case you hadn't noticed, I'm mighty tired of uninformed people bagging journalists and reporters for no good reason, other than the supporter's own inherent ignorance and bias.

When journalists deserve a kicking, I'm all for letting them know about it, but so much of the criticism levelled at the profession is unwarranted.

If people had any idea of the importance that most journalists place on their integrity, and the hoops that a story has to jump through in order to be published, they'd be wary of ever accusing journalists of "making things up".

Speaking of space constraints, it's a pity this thread doesn't have one. What a load of bollocks...

Speaking of space constraints, it's a pity this thread doesn't have one. What a load of bollocks...

Why is it bollocks? You haven't backed up your assertion because you can't.

I'm going to assume that you've got no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the process of putting together a newspaper report, because you wouldn't have replied in that fashion if you did.

When you [censored] about "the evil media" that's out to get your beloved football club, take a second to ponder what it would be like if the only source of football information the general public had was the AFL and club press releases.

You'd get about one per cent of the information you do now, and even less of it would resemble the truth.

Why is it bollocks? You haven't backed up your assertion because you can't.

I'm going to assume that you've got no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the process of putting together a newspaper report, because you wouldn't have replied in that fashion if you did.

When you [censored] about "the evil media" that's out to get your beloved football club, take a second to ponder what it would be like if the only source of football information the general public had was the AFL and club press releases.

You'd get about one per cent of the information you do now, and even less of it would resemble the truth.

That's fine MikeyJ. You just continue to take everything that the press writes as gospel, whilst the rest of us try to decipher what is fact and what is journalistic embellishment.

That's fine MikeyJ. You just continue to take everything that the press writes as gospel, whilst the rest of us try to decipher what is fact and what is journalistic embellishment.

I can assure you that if a journalist "embellished" as much as you seem to believe they do, they'd soon be out of a job.

You'd struggle to find someone more cynical than a typical member of the press pack. They tend to require a little more convincing than your average joe (or Mo) and even after they're convinced of a story's merits and veracity, they need to find sources willing to go on-record to back up their reports.

If you prefer to think of all media professionals as a pack of wolves hungry for any opportunity to publish untruths and lies, it says more about you than it does about those who engage in the journalistic profession.