Liston Results

[Deelicious9 0]

Could someone please post the results on here as my computer wont let me open up any PDF files. As much detail as possible would be great. Thanks.

[deesrock 0]

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/articl...ong_sports.html

GEELONG captain James Byrne two votes from Sandringham's Shane Valenti.

Do you want any other details???

[Demonland 73,209]

Final Leaderboard

James Byrne (Geel) 22 votes

Shane Valenti (Sand) 20 "

Travis Ronaldson (Cob) 17 "

Charlie Gardiner (Geel) 14 "

Al Neville (Cob) 13 "

Josh Hunt (Geel) 13 "

Djaran Whyman (N Ball) 13 "

Ezra Poyas (Sand) 13 "

Kyle Matthews (Casey) 12 votes

Shannon Byrnes (Geel) 11 votes

Paul Licuria (Will) 10 votes

Apparently Valenti took the lead with one round to go but was beaten when Byrne polled the maximum in the final round.

MFC players to poll

4 C Johnson

3 M Newton

" M Jamar

2 B Miller

" J Bode

1 C Bizzell

" M Warnock

" P Wheatley

[Madness 44]

Gee, what happened to Summers..

[Bobby McKenzie 2,391]

Gee, what happened to Summers..

And one would have thought that Sautner with all his goals would have picked up a few. Does anyone know his total?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

And one would have thought that Sautner with all his goals would have picked up a few. Does anyone know his total?

Sautner is your old fashioned receiver. Not high powered vote drawing there.

[QueenC 74]

And one would have thought that Sautner with all his goals would have picked up a few. Does anyone know his total?

You can find all the results here Bobby........

2007 JJ Liston Trophy

[Gouga 570]

Sautner is your old fashioned receiver. Not high powered vote drawing there.

Well he is a full-forward. All he do is mark the ball and kick the goal.

[sylvinator 96]

does anyone think it would be worth picking Valenti up as a low draft pick or rookie pick?

i have seen him play abotu 5 or 6 times... he is regularly named in the top 2 or 3 players for sandy and we were minor premiers...he is nuggety, a ball magnet with quite good disposal.

however he is pretty slow and not that agile and doesnt have any one outstanding quality that you ussually need to make the step up to afl level (like great speed or skill or agility or making prowess).

on the other hand, this description is very similar to Sam Mitchell who despite not having any particular physical characteristics that jump out at you, he is just a bloody good footballer.

could Valenti do a Mitchell or is he just a good vfl player? He is only 20

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Well he is a full-forward. All he do is mark the ball and kick the goal.

I meant old fashioned in that he does not chase and has no defensive skills to his game and is not really much of a team player.

[Beach Road Bazza 0]

VFL TEAM OF YEAR

Backs S Rosa (Bendigo) C Lamb(Sandringham) J Silvester (Coburg)

Half Backs J Baird (Pt Melb) J Cloke (Bendigo) A Iacobucci (Bullants)

Centreline J Davenport (Geelong) J Byrne (Geelong) © D Gallagher (Sandringham)

Half Forwards E Poyas (Sandringham) J Dukes (Pt Melb) P Summers (Sandringham)

Forwards J Berry (Frankston) N Sautner (Sandringham) T Grima (Geelong)

Followers T Ronaldson (Coburg) A Neville (Coburg) S Valenti (Sandringham)

Interchange N Smith - aka 426 (Box Hill) K Matthews (Casey) B Johnson (Will'town) T Cartledge (North Ballarat)

Coach Andrew Collins (Coburg)

[The Fergburger 0]

Gee, what happened to Summers..

Very surprised that he only polled in 3 games. :angry:

[BrownlowBruce 1]

Sautner is your old fashioned receiver. Not high powered vote drawing there.

Well he is a full-forward. All he do is mark the ball and kick the goal.

oohh soo kicking goals is not that important...

[Deelicious9 0]

oohh soo kicking goals is not that important...

He didn't deserve votes.

Even in the Leader/Collex award which is just for Sandringham players he only polled 2 votes. Interesting to note though that Summers beat Valenti in that award.

[CURTIS 0]

He didn't deserve votes.

Even in the Leader/Collex award which is just for Sandringham players he only polled 2 votes. Interesting to note though that Summers beat Valenti in that award.

Obvious reason valenti chases and works very hard. Summers doesn't chase or do team things just want the ball for himself and turns the ball over.

[The Fergburger 0]

Summers doesn't chase or do team things just want the ball for himself and turns the ball over.

Totally disagree, haven't you seen him play??? 90% of the time he hits his target on the chest and he's also a team player by passing the ball whenever he has the opportunity. He works his butt off to play his best and that is the reason why he wins so much of the ball.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

oohh soo kicking goals is not that important...

Not when votes are given out.

It must be embarrassing when you demonstrate that you dont read the thread before making a silly retort like that.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,391]

You can find all the results here Bobby........

2007 JJ Liston Trophy

Thanks very much Queen C. He didn't set the world on fire with his votes (1) did he? How many goals did he kick I wonder. More than his votes that's for sure!

[BrownlowBruce 1]

Not when votes are given out.

It must be embarrassing when you demonstrate that you dont read the thread before making a silly retort like that.

really embarrasing....

i find ur views on football quite bizzare... players all have different roles in a game... one may be easier than the other.. a forwards job is to mark and kick a goal , do they not deserve votes if they dont possess "defensive skills" which u would suggest they lack anyway hence being a forward.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

really embarrasing....

i find ur views on football quite bizzare... players all have different roles in a game... one may be easier than the other.. a forwards job is to mark and kick a goal , do they not deserve votes if they dont possess "defensive skills" which u would suggest they lack anyway hence being a forward.

You would find it bizarre as it is based on fact and the history of AFL/VFL/VFA best player medals. Do the research. Unless its a Tony Lockett or Jason Dunstall having a creamer of year, history of the vote awarding by umpires shows that opportunistic, inconsistently performing forwards with little or no second efforts when they dont have the ball, dont get rewarded.