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POSTGAME: Rd 12 vs St. Kilda

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5 hours ago, Roost it far said:

His club has won one flag in its history, it’s as close to irrelevant as GC and GWS. On top of that his game plan is the worst in the comp, he’s won nothing and he’s got a dubious personal record. He talks a big game but barely delivers a weeks groceries. Ross Lyon can go [censored] himself.

All that may be true, But he is still correct. We need to end the AS disaster ASAP.

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    16 minutes ago, picket fence said:

    But I reckon he is correct on this issue!

    I don't agree with you on much but this is one of those times!

    He and the rest of Saint Kilda are also correct in going in hard on the expansion teams/FA/Academies and all the other mechanics of the league that disadvantage smaller clubs.

    I glad they are doing it because it affects us just as much but we don't cop all the heat for bring it up! 🤣

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    13 minutes ago, speed demon said:

    Loading is a hypothesis that better explains the observation (i.e. great, high-intensity footy the previous weeks and rubbish, low-intensity the next) than the alternatives put forward (weak, soft, drinking bathwater etc).

    However, seems indulgent to be loading into the Saints game given our ladder situation. I note the points you raise above and, if loading did occur, maybe these are the reasons why. Even so, I think this is flawed. A high performance program that is rigidly set at the beginning of the season and not recalibrated as the season unfolds seems high risk of imploding.

    I think this is particularly true for MFC in 2025. Coming off 14th place in 2024, it would be foolish to assume we could roll into the middle of the season with 10 wins. Especially when pre-season we had injuries (and suspension) to key ball users in the new game plan (McVee, Windsor, Melksham, Kozzie). Six debutants in round 1 was both exciting AND worrying.

    I think we will be more competitive against Collingwood but even at our best a win will be hard. Come the end of the season, I worry that the Saints game will be game that we couldn't afford to drop.

    I think the argument can be had that loading through the Collingwood game would have been the smarter move. Win the Saints game, sacrifice the Pies match as it's a much harder one to win, take the bye and be cherry ripe post bye. The thing going against this scenario is we absolutely do not want to get smashed on any given KB. This is what I think is playing out and at the end of the day we were some straight kicks away from beating the Saints so it wasn't a terrible gamble. Now let's see how we go this week.

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    5 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    I think the argument can be had that loading through the Collingwood game would have been the smarter move. Win the Saints game, sacrifice the Pies match as it's a much harder one to win, take the bye and be cherry ripe post bye. The thing going against this scenario is we absolutely do not want to get smashed on any given KB. This is what I think is playing out and at the end of the day we were some straight kicks away from beating the Saints so it wasn't a terrible gamble. Now let's see how we go this week.

    We also have another game after Kings Bday before the bye.

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    19 hours ago, speed demon said:

    Loading is a hypothesis that better explains the observation (i.e. great, high-intensity footy the previous weeks and rubbish, low-intensity the next) than the alternatives put forward (weak, soft, drinking bathwater etc).

    However, seems indulgent to be loading into the Saints game given our ladder situation. I note the points you raise above and, if loading did occur, maybe these are the reasons why. Even so, I think this is flawed. A high performance program that is rigidly set at the beginning of the season and not recalibrated as the season unfolds seems high risk of imploding.

    I think this is particularly true for MFC in 2025. Coming off 14th place in 2024, it would be foolish to assume we could roll into the middle of the season with 10 wins. Especially when pre-season we had injuries (and suspension) to key ball users in the new game plan (McVee, Windsor, Melksham, Kozzie). Six debutants in round 1 was both exciting AND worrying.

    I think we will be more competitive against Collingwood but even at our best a win will be hard. Come the end of the season, I worry that the Saints game will be game that we couldn't afford to drop.

    score line v Pies CW 10/4 /64 to MFC 7/21/63

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    Loading schmoding

    Its all crappola

    We have 28+ opportunities to score goals. We got 7 of them. Let's not try to complicate or excuse the issue.

    Its a killer. Kills games, kills supporters, momentum. Its totally cooked.

    The same kicking problems from the same people are re-occuring. Its infuriating and will also cost us probably 20k supporters this weekend.

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