21 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Our suspensions let us down this year in marginal losses the following week:

1) Kozzie round 1 - lose to Brisbane in round 2 by a margin that Kozzie could've pegged back on his own.

2) Sparrow round 9 - lose to Port in round 10

3) Hunter round 10 - lose to Freo in round 11

4) JVR QF - lose to Carlton in SF

5) Kozzie SF - round 1 2024?? (and would have depleted our forward line even more if we got through to the prelim)

 

The Sparrow and Hunter suspensions were total BS. 

Sparrow with a borderline dangerous tackle with suspect vision, and don't even get me started on the Hunter suspension debacle. Absolute rubbish.

Kosi and JVR need to do better. Silly hot headed moments that cost us dearly.

15 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I hate this ‘flying the flag’ [censored]. Who does it benefit? And how? Serious questions.

You think it’s wise to have a bunch of our players run to physically retaliate against an opponent and risk being cited for an errant fist to the face or something? Is it wise to have our players hopelessly out of position when play resumes?

I actually thought the way our guys reacted was perfect.

Everyone kept their head in the game and on our system but our trusty enforcer was able to do a little flag flying. Some can do it while keeping their head in the game like Viney and some can't, no need to start a brawl for all. 

23 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Our suspensions let us down this year in marginal losses the following week:

1) Kozzie round 1 - lose to Brisbane in round 2 by a margin that Kozzie could've pegged back on his own.

2) Sparrow round 9 - lose to Port in round 10

3) Hunter round 10 - lose to Freo in round 11

4) JVR QF - lose to Carlton in SF

5) Kozzie SF - round 1 2024?? (and would have depleted our forward line even more if we got through to the prelim)

 

Whoa. That’s a strange and disturbing pattern. 

I don’t think any team would consider us soft after playing us. We are a pretty brutal contested football side 

28 minutes ago, von said:

I don’t think any team would consider us soft after playing us. We are a pretty brutal contested football side 

Exactly. I was going to say how can we be bruise free when we were 1st in contested ball and 5th in tackles this year?

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

You mean the same past that Maynard used, to end Gus's finals and our campaign?

BTW, you misread SthSea22's post. He said "But at least go harder at the ball and make Maynard feel every tackle"

He didn't say to "focus on roughing up Maynard, thereby not 100% focusing on the game?"

If any player is paying any mind to making *”Maynard feel every tackle” even for a couple of seconds, that’s a couple of seconds too long. Maynard’s a thug, it’s innate. He belongs at Collingwood where thugs thrive. We boast a great culture and that should include not fighting fire with fire.

*making him feel every tackle isn’t terribly different from roughing him up.

Almost forgot… IMHO. 

9 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

If any player is paying any mind to making *”Maynard feel every tackle” even for a couple of seconds, that’s a couple of seconds too long. Maynard’s a thug, it’s innate. He belongs at Collingwood where thugs thrive. We boast a great culture and that should include not fighting fire with fire.

*making him feel every tackle isn’t terribly different from roughing him up.

Almost forgot… IMHO. 

I don't think going harder at the ball and thinking for a couple of seconds, of making Maynard feel every tackle, is going to hurt a team, rather, going extra hard for the ball, would probably help us win.

Just now, Redleg said:

I don't think going harder at the ball and thinking for a couple of seconds, of making Maynard feel every tackle, is going to hurt a team, rather, going extra hard for the ball, would probably help us win.

I’m not questioning going harder at the ball. I’m saying that being even partly mindful of “making Maynard feel every tackle” is an unnecessary waste of concentration.

17 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I’m not questioning going harder at the ball. I’m saying that being even partly mindful of “making Maynard feel every tackle” is an unnecessary waste of concentration.

Well Selwood and Cotchin absolutely disagree with you, saying they planned for it all week in their finals, to stop star opposition players.

They continually targeted players to fatigue them and take their effectiveness away.

They won flags doing it.

Selwood and Cotchin both said Oliver showed sportsmanship, but it was misguided, as it could have cost his team a PF.

Ruthless teams win contact sports, not nice teams.

Edited September 20, 20231 yr by Redleg