Last night was disgusting we over used the ball and overused the handball, and a skill were as good as my under 16s side. However things could not of bee worse. Next week. These players cant play that bad.

DAVEY BRUCE GREEN YZE (hopfully he wont be playing) SAME WITH MILLER. CAROLL WAS SHOCKERS. wont have 2 players on bench mclean and whelan injured early. Although they are young Jones Bate Batram Bell and Johnson can not be that bad two weeks in a row.

Positives

Moloney although wasteful looked really good

Neitz and Robbo were moving well

Negatives

I think last night we had 2 many unaccountable soft as butter players. GREEN BRUCE YZE AND DAVEY applied NOOOOOOOOOOO forward line pressure and were unaccountable. However with Rivers and Pickett, and Sylvia comming back soon it should fix that, and if Whelan and Mclean play a full game.

Last year our tackling was great last night it was second rate.

More handballs than ive seen from us in years(N).

However dont worry we have too much quality to do that two weeks in a row. Just be positive and give it an other week. 21 weeks to go plus 4 weeks of finals. We wont remember this on the last saturday in september

I hope ur right!

Get up the DEES!!

However dont worry we have too much quality to do that two weeks in a row. Just be positive and give it an other week. 21 weeks to go plus 4 weeks of finals. We wont remember this on the last saturday in september

If we play like we played last night we wont make finals

I just hope you are correct in your predition that we wont remeber on the last sat in september

Didnt we lose to carlton round 1 last year with a similar onfield display?

We have a stronger list than last year. I WAS disgusted, but we cannot play any worse.

I cant get a refund on my memebership, so i may as well keep the faith, maybe the dees will round into form and attack the 07 cup.....maybe.

Carn the dees

P>s THIS year is the year of COLIN SYLVIA!

As poor as Friday Nite was, we cant think of Finals. I have stressed this, its a week to week proposition. Main thing is to get a little enthusiasm in the group. I could not believe how disinterested the team looked last night during the 2nd and 3rd quarters. hadnt we been waiting 6 months to play footy again?

Great to see the skipper looking fit. Cmon Dees

I have calmed down now since last night

As fans, we always overreact and last night was no different

Round 1 results MEAN NOTHING

Anyone remember that we were 0-3 last year?

We will bounce back, we will definitely play FInals and we will challenge for top 4

Round 1 results MEAN NOTHING

a little thing called percentage going into the finals might argue against that comment.

Every game counts, tis foolish to think otherwise.

Round 1 results MEAN NOTHING

Anyone remember that we were 0-3 last year?

I admire the glass half full mentality, and I'm not stupid enough to write us off after one round, but there are a couple of differences between last night's debacle and last season's first round.

We were underdone and unprepared in those first 2 rounds last year, then we were robbed in round 3.

Last night we had players that looked very sharp, certainly sharper than they did at round 1 last year. Neitz is a good example.

Against the Blues we were stunned by a crap side playing beautiful positive footy through Feva. Last night we were stunned by an underdone side playing negative footy. Last year we came good because we had room to improve. Last night we showed signs there are inherent problems with the current list/coach/gameplan.

Most of all though, there were players that people think played badly that apparently should improve. Carroll was on his own against a dual coleman medallist who had 50 metres to work in, a dominant midfield and 20 more inside fifties. Holland had our equal second most possessions and 11 marks. Neitz kicked 3.2 against multiple opponents with much less support and entrances inside fifty. Robbo made the most of very little. Our attack all fled to the backline, and the backline were up against it all day, especially without Rivers.

The problem is the midfield. Brock is out. Moloney and Jones did ok. We had SO many passengers in there it was ridiculous. Bruce, Green, Yze (played in the guts at least a little) and Bate all had huge problems. Yes they'll improve but will they improve enough? Can you rely on the perennial flakes in this side to suddenly add 15 possessions each to their tallies? With no Brock?

Fix the inherent problems in the midfield and we have some hope. They're all pretty damn good players when they're on so why can't we? If Beamer can play his first real game in ages and play THAT well, then any of these fit guys should be able to go alright shouldn't they?

For my part, looking at the way the Dorks played tonight it may be a case of meeting the right opposition at the right time. But if we limp over the line against these blokes, then play a quality side and bring garbage like we did yesterday, then what's the point?

One of the dees fans I was sitting with said it best. Even if we fixed up our big problems we're still nowhere near good enough to beat the big sides away. And we have to be.

We will bounce back, we will definitely play FInals and we will challenge for top 4

I am going to go with this, as it makes me feel better and I try to be an optomistic person really......

The only think we can truly hope for is that they, as in the team, will as well !!!

"We can still win the flag this year"

Grow up!

"We can still win the flag this year"

Grow up!

no, you grow up!

why the negativity after ONE game

where we were going into the game without our best 22, some underdone

where we lost our best defender and our best midfielder within 20 minutes of each other

blame neale, blame miller, whatever, but it just wasn';t our turn on friday night, there is still 21 more rounds for us to improve, win and prove to the world how good a team we are!

blame neale, blame miller, whatever, but it just wasn';t our turn on friday night, there is still 21 more rounds for us to improve, win and prove to the world how good a team we are!

I sincerly admire your optimism.

As commented earlier and elsewhere...by others and myself; friday was not a debacle in isolation. This has been out modus operandi for the whole year so far. Just, friday was shown for all its foibles !! ...and by a team wwe wouldnt rate at the top; and that becomes the true worry. God knows what a West Coast or Sydney will do to us if we play like that !!

Sometimes those things that look and sound like ducks......are DUCKS !! and we were a lame one indeed.

But whilst the players were the ones on the field...I lay the blame squarely at Daniher as he is supposedly controlling those guys and instructing them in the manner of play.

So we can still win the flag this year.... well i suppose anything is possible..

but what is goinf to change players? Nup !! Coach ? Nup !! the way we play ? thats going to have to happen if any hope is possible.

What irks me and worries me is that this 'style' of play had been trialed in the preseason and practice matices etc...and found desperately wanting and yet Dunderher still rolls this out !!

unless something dramatically different and more closely resembling a REAL gameplan and style surface next week we are in for a long long long season !!

Maybe the deez are taking a bit of time adjusting to the footy season.

after all, we lost the opening 3 last year and came out firing

this is 2007 you DONT adjust to the game you play.. you PLAY it from day 1..this is what professionals do...its their craft and thats what the preseason is for...to iron out the bugs and hones the gameplan etc.

.to hand your opponents..all of them a 3 game freeby is suicide.

this is 2007 you DONT adjust to the game you play.. you PLAY it from day 1..this is what professionals do...its their craft and thats what the preseason is for...to iron out the bugs and hones the gameplan etc.

.to hand your opponents..all of them a 3 game freeby is suicide.

Then why is it that Carlton seem to be on top of the game pre-season yet performs abysmally in the real thing? I agree with you on the fact that preseason helps players adjust to the AFL season, but I believe it is very different to the actual season, not only in terms of the game rules and giving youngsters game experience, but also the fact that clubs don't give away their strategies until the season starts, sometimes not even until the finals.

Then why is it that Carlton seem to be on top of the game pre-season yet performs abysmally in the real thing? I agree with you on the fact that preseason helps players adjust to the AFL season, but I believe it is very different to the actual season, not only in terms of the game rules and giving youngsters game experience, but also the fact that clubs don't give away their strategies until the season starts, sometimes not even until the finals.

Very good summary ooze

Yeah i know differennt rules in pre season makes things harder, although it helps players get back in the grove after the summer.

So even though we played poorly on friday, there is still plenty of time to go before the finals and hopefullt we can be in the top 4 after the next 21 weeks

Very good summary ooze

Yeah i know differennt rules in pre season makes things harder, although it helps players get back in the grove after the summer.

So even though we played poorly on friday, there is still plenty of time to go before the finals and hopefullt we can be in the top 4 after the next 21 weeks

Yes, Hopefully

Hopefully we find some solution to the water crisis

Hopefully Rage Against the Machine get back together and play the Corner Hotel next Friday

Hopefully Kate Moss pops around later with a bag of coke and 'that look in her eye'

Hopefully the Demons make top 4

We can hope all we want, but the real contenders don't need to hope as they have the list, the plan and the desire to succeed.

So sick of this club

Wetill got a chance we just gotta play a more aggressive faster game. kick in quiker after behinds dont handball as much and take more risks while kicking dont just kick around and get nowhere like on friday.