5 hours ago, Demonland said:

Roos Officially Replaced by Roo.

BREAKING: Our newest On The Couch panellist has been locked in! Welcome, Roo. ?
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He will be good. Understands the modern game very well

30 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He will be good. Understands the modern game very well

Doesn't really understand anything from the coaches perspective.

Modern day players don't have a clue what goes on in the coaches box, they only know the little that has to do with their own position.

Any player that goes into coaching as an assistant says they didn't know what hit them.

They didn't know the half of what goes on.

Then it's another step up to the top job.

This appointment is a retrograde step to my mind...

The game has gone past just a couple of ex players sitting on the couch.

They're going with their personality pick rather than someone with a coaching background in the modern game.

As footy fans and people that take a real interest in the game, we deserve better.

Brad Scott, a left field choice perhaps. I know he has a job in the AFL but the others all have jobs off the couch, it shouldn't preclude someone like him.

So, if we look at all the TV footy media 9 have picked up Lyon, a good get.

...but they cancel it out with Lloyd. Right up there in the useless category.

Apart from Lyon the only other coach I can think of on TV is Mathews and he's long past it, doesn't really know the players and doesn't do his homework.

7 minutes ago, rjay said:

Doesn't really understand anything from the coaches perspective.

Modern day players don't have a clue what goes on in the coaches box, they only know the little that has to do with their own position.

Any player that goes into coaching as an assistant says they didn't know what hit them.

They didn't know the half of what goes on.

Then it's another step up to the top job.

This appointment is a retrograde step to my mind...

The game has gone past just a couple of ex players sitting on the couch.

They're going with their personality pick rather than someone with a coaching background in the modern game.

As footy fans and people that take a real interest in the game, we deserve better.

Brad Scott, a left field choice perhaps. I know he has a job in the AFL but the others all have jobs off the couch, it shouldn't preclude someone like him.

So, if we look at all the TV footy media 9 have picked up Lyon, a good get.

...but they cancel it out with Lloyd. Right up there in the useless category.

Apart from Lyon the only other coach I can think of on TV is Mathews and he's long past it, doesn't really know the players and doesn't do his homework.

Players are on the ground doing the work. I like the way Nick speaks

He will be fine

23 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Players are on the ground doing the work. I like the way Nick speaks

He will be fine

They are only the chess pieces 'SWYL'...

I would like to hear from the chess master.

14 minutes ago, rjay said:

They are only the chess pieces 'SWYL'...

I would like to hear from the chess master.

I see it from the other side. Coaches make  the moves

Players do the job

1 hour ago, rjay said:

Doesn't really understand anything from the coaches perspective.

Modern day players don't have a clue what goes on in the coaches box, they only know the little that has to do with their own position.

Any player that goes into coaching as an assistant says they didn't know what hit them.

They didn't know the half of what goes on.

Then it's another step up to the top job.

This appointment is a retrograde step to my mind...

The game has gone past just a couple of ex players sitting on the couch.

They're going with their personality pick rather than someone with a coaching background in the modern game.

As footy fans and people that take a real interest in the game, we deserve better.

Brad Scott, a left field choice perhaps. I know he has a job in the AFL but the others all have jobs off the couch, it shouldn't preclude someone like him.

So, if we look at all the TV footy media 9 have picked up Lyon, a good get.

...but they cancel it out with Lloyd. Right up there in the useless category.

Apart from Lyon the only other coach I can think of on TV is Mathews and he's long past it, doesn't really know the players and doesn't do his homework.

What’s your point rjay?
When did Healy coach?

When did Brown coach?

Dunstall?

Sheehan?

etc. 

I think Riewoldt is the pick of the (small) bunch. 

33 minutes ago, McQueen said:

What’s your point rjay?
When did Healy coach?

When did Brown coach?

Dunstall?

Sheehan?

etc. 

I think Riewoldt is the pick of the (small) bunch. 

I think the old model worked for then but now the game is more coached than ever, for better or worse.

Reckon football media is behind the times with little to no new ideas.

My point is there should be at least one coach on the panel.

One coach off, one coach on. Not another player.

Take Nick on but get rid of one of the others.

Dunstall who is no longer on the show was the pick of that bunch for mine...an astute football brain.

15 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think the old model worked for then but now the game is more coached than ever, for better or worse.

Reckon football media is behind the times with little to no new ideas.

My point is there should be at least one coach on the panel.

One coach off, one coach on. Not another player.

Take Nick on but get rid of one of the others.

Dunstall who is no longer on the show was the pick of that bunch for mine...an astute football brain.

I see where you’re coming from but my issue is that if you only have one coach, you’re effectively only getting one opinion on this show irregardless of the debate they contrive. 
But saying that, even on 360 the coaches seemed to align their views more often than not and it was all pretty meh. 
Maybe recently retired players will provide greater value insights to us after all as opposed to the antiquated views of the likes of Roos. 

Can only wait and see now. 

23 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think the old model worked for then but now the game is more coached than ever, for better or worse.

Reckon football media is behind the times with little to no new ideas.

My point is there should be at least one coach on the panel.

One coach off, one coach on. Not another player.

Take Nick on but get rid of one of the others.

Dunstall who is no longer on the show was the pick of that bunch for mine...an astute football brain.

I would rather listen to Nick Reiwoldt analyze a situation than the cryptic rambling of Ross Lyon any day

4 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I would rather listen to Nick Reiwoldt analyze a situation than the cryptic rambling of Ross Lyon any day

We differ greatly on this.

...and remember, Lyon is not coaching a club now so I expect him to be quite illuminating rather than cryptic.

5 hours ago, rjay said:

We differ greatly on this.

...and remember, Lyon is not coaching a club now so I expect him to be quite illuminating rather than cryptic.

Yes we differ greatly om this 

All good mate

I wonder if David King had thought he was about to get his old job back... 

To be fair Roo is probably the best of them left. They could have taken a big risk and get Hird back. At least he has, albeit completely tarnished, coaching experience.

On 1/29/2020 at 1:42 PM, binman said:

To be perfectly honest i don't think roos leaving is much loss. i rarely found his comments interesting or particularly insightful. And he often had biases that he struggled to hide.

To be perfectly honest i think Roos leaving is a big loss for Fox, as for the Footy public generally, not so much. Probably we might find it a gain.

Being one who also finds it hard not to speak straight, i could fully appreciate the conditions he would have worked under there.

 As to his comments, successful coaches meld to players not to media hacks....eg Barassi, Blight and Sheedy