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Melb16 and Smokey: 2

34 minutes ago, Melb16 said:

I like that you've bristled up a little here. Some emotion in one of your posts, I'm all for it. Let's see if we can coax out just a little bit of empathy now.

100% of the people you've chosen to lecture in this thread support Goodes. An skewed figure for someone who 'deplores racism'. 

One thing I'm sure (hope) we agree on is that there was an element of the abuse Goodes received was racially motivated. I think that the majority of it was/is. That is my opinion from the sample size that I have come in contact with. Meanwhile, you're hellbent on trying to make people prove what percentage that was (obviously not possible) in order to protect those the might've been lumped in with the bigots. 

You've tried to compare whites experiencing racism to minorities and in this case indigenous Australians experiencing racism. I find that completely misses the mark at best. 

All of the people that have put forward considered arguments in this thread disagree with you. You may not put me in that category, if that's the case, I'm not fussed. But have you considered that? Everyone is wrong and you're right? Even the person that seems to know you personally disagreed with you.

Maybe you're just more intelligent than everyone?

I can’t be any more clear on this issue. If you’re unable to watch that video and appreciate the truth it’s presenting and how it relates to this discussion then it probably stands that I am more intelligent than you, yes. 

I don’t mean to sound arrogant and honestly I do appreciate your efforts to understand, but ...

I guess that’s just the way it goes. I ‘aint tryin’ to preach, I believe I can reach, but your mind ain’t prepared ... I’ll see you when you get there.

Will you ever get there?

Some Coolio there for you on a Thursday afternoon. I’ll give you that for free.

Edited June 20, 20196 yr by Matsuo Basho

What is narcissistic personality disorder?
Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) involves a pattern of self-centered, arrogant thinking and behavior, a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe people with NPD as cocky, manipulative, selfish, patronizing, and demanding.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder:

Grandiose sense of self-importance
Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things.

Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it.

Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others
Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t bow down to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line.

Sense of entitlement
Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder.

9 minutes ago, Melb16 said:

What is narcissistic personality disorder?
Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) involves a pattern of self-centered, arrogant thinking and behavior, a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe people with NPD as cocky, manipulative, selfish, patronizing, and demanding.

Signs and symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder:

Grandiose sense of self-importance
Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things.

Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it.

Frequently demeans, intimidates, bullies, or belittles others
Narcissists feel threatened whenever they encounter someone who appears to have something they lack—especially those who are confident and popular. They’re also threatened by people who don’t bow down to them or who challenge them in any way. Their defense mechanism is contempt. The only way to neutralize the threat and prop up their own sagging ego is to put those people down. They may do it in a patronizing or dismissive way as if to demonstrate how little the other person means to them. Or they may go on the attack with insults, name-calling, bullying, and threats to force the other person back into line.

Sense of entitlement
Because they consider themselves special, narcissists expect favorable treatment as their due. They truly believe that whatever they want, they should get. They also expect the people around them to automatically comply with their every wish and whim. That is their only value. If you don’t anticipate and meet their every need, then you’re useless. And if you have the nerve to defy their will or “selfishly” ask for something in return, prepare yourself for aggression, outrage, or the cold shoulder.

There it is. Toys out of the cot time.

Reeeeyyy!

35 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

There it is. Toys out of the cot time.

Reeeeyyy!

Ironic, as this is a childish response (to an otherwise interesting discussion) that is normally reserved for 30 years old's still living with their parents. According to current meme culture, that last line is a jab at people with autism. What a compassionate soul you are. 

As fun as this has been, I'll see myself out. Until next time, Matsuo ... 

Edited June 20, 20196 yr by Smokey

2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I'm with you Moonie. Tedium well and truly has set in.

Shame because it's a fascinating subject.

5 minutes ago, Smokey said:

Ironic, as this is a childish response (to an otherwise interesting discussion) that is normally reserved for 30 years old's still living with their parents. According to current meme culture, that last line is a jab at people with autism. What a compassionate soul you are. 

Please enlighten the forum about 'current meme culture' and linking whatever the hell that is to this intriguing accusation that I am mocking people with autism. What a fantastically insulting thing to spit out. I'm all ears ?

15 hours ago, Smokey said:

I would argue that, as you appear to be a tertiary-educated white male, that you are the one who is out of their depth when discussing the true meaning of racism. Look beyond how the dictionary defines the word and understand that the notion of racism is underpinned by thousand of years of white imperialism throughout history. And sadly, in Australia, we don’t need to look back very far to see evidence of that. Our high court didn’t recognise native title until 1992. We didn’t apologise for the forceable removable of aboriginal children by Australian government agencies until 2008. Oh yes, how civilised we are. 

Only a white man of privilege would believe that they can be subjected to the same racial bias as our first peoples have been. And why anyone would seek to identify with this through idiotic comparisons of “racism” toward white people is hard to understand. Again, look beyond the word and have the common sense to accept what the term racism actually means in practise. 

The South African farmers being slaughtered regularly by their black government might disagree about the whole 'white privilege' thing.

As would the Christians currently being ethnically cleansed in the middle east and Africa.

Let go of your white guilt, it will eat you alive.