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19 hours ago, daisycutter said:

wines has apparently being water skiing (continuously) since he was 6 years old and is quite an accomplished water skier. He apparently had a freak foul-up with the rope and dislocated his shoulder which a local hospital popped back in. It was just bad luck by all reports and not a case of him doing something stupid or beyond his skills.

Do any folk make sacrifices ? Of course.. whether it be for success, for family .. whatever. AFL players are a subset of all-people so why would they ever be exempt.

It was a fairly stupid decision IMHO as he put himself in a position where sometimes things happen.. and they do. A lot of folk come a cropper skiing..both water and snow. They are only two past times with a heightened risk factor.

No one is saying don't enjoy yourself. There are any number of things you can do outside of footy to stretch the brain cells as well as the body. It IS incumbent upon players to make wise choices as they have a responsibility , indeed debt, to the club and fellow teammates to turn up fit and raring to go.

Cornes is a class 1 DH . .but Ollie, you f'd up. Own it.

Dangermouse is even more of a DH that Cornea ffs.

When's footy starting

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21 hours ago, Skuit said:

Not left or right wing: human beings and employees have the right to make whatever choices they want to outside of work regardless of how much they are paid. It couldn't be more simple. If they screw-up and do something that may impact their work performance, that will impact their future employment and work contract negotiations.

No, they do not have that  as a right. They cannot choose to murder, rape, kidnap engage in illegal practices. As for legal practice they cannot engage in activities stipulated in their work contract deemed as potentially dangerous or unsociable and must gain permission to do some activities as stipulated in their contract. They cannot divulge trade secret, sensitive, private information about their employees. 

No they cannot do what they want in their own time.

I do not know any top sportsmen or women that have not made sacrifices.  Often the thing that delineates the best is that they have been single-minded in their pursuit to be the best they can be. And the critical component of that success is that they have made sacrifices whether it be in lifestyle choices, friends or even family. 

Eliminating risk taking behaviours is an important part of that equation. However, the evaluation of risk taking is a value judgement based on the individuals skills, competence and experience. If you have been doing something all your life, it may not be seen as as risk taking (eg snow skiing or water skiing).  Michael Schumaker went skiing because he loved it and had being doing it all his life. He was an accomplished skier. For me, skiing down a black run is much riskier than for an experienced skier.Driving a car is another example. Its the biggest risk of all, yet most people do it every day without thinking. Its second nature. Yet people die or incur injury. 

Ollie Wines is an accomplished water skier but I would suggest that skiing on a log infested river is riskier than on open water.

It requires thought, evaluation and assessment. It means different things for different people. It is in the grey zone not the black and white.  It also involves an evaluation by the individual as to the importance of the end goal, in this case Ollies footy. 

 

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