What about the games where Yze kicked 5 against the pies?...do people just forget those games?!! That was a finals like atmosphere. not only is yze in the 22, starting 18 every game. It looks like, unlike the Miller selection, that myself and the melbourne footy club selection committee finally have some common ground and that is Yze.

Freak, it was a final like crowd but Collingwood were a rabble that day and may as well not shown up. It was a one sided game where MFC literally dominated all positions. it was a long way from September. They are exactly the game where Yze will dominate. Little accountability of opposition, easy possessions and exploitable weaknesses.

Your common ground with MFC footy department may be more like shaky ground if he performs like he usually does in late August/ September. He may start in initial 22 but he will have to perform ot stay in it.

A combination of kids and veterans. But after watching the Freo final, perhaps we are further away than what we'd like.

Its just that I nearly spat my coffee out when Old mentioned that Robbo, Yze and Davey are fighting for 2/3 spots for our best 22. Ofcourse he may be correct, but it just seems like a very left-field suggestion at this stage.

Perhaps this is the kick in the pants that all 3 players need!

BBP, you fail to recognise that final football is a higher tougher standard of football where accountability, pressure and hardness for the ball (and the man) are at a premium. It tougher more demanding football than H & A.

Yze - too old to learn. Has had too many chances already and has not improved. An annual shrinking violet who the Club should eke what it can out of him because there is no certainty he will deliver at the business end of the season He is no certainty to be in the best 22 come seasons ended.

Davey- Very skilful but easily put off his game (eg St Kilda). He lost it under pressure. Needs to dominate a final to be the star many are proclaiming. Youing enough to still do it.

Robbo - Loved Robbo as a player for many years. But injured or not, he needs to do more when he does not get possession of the ball. Game is changing and the Ryan O'Keeffe types are dominating the game with their work ethic. Robbo needs to improve big time on that. Agree with Fan, that Robbo is at risk if he does not improve his efforts when the ball hits the ground.

I still have hopes for Bizzell. I know I'm one of few.

Couple of points with him.

Once upon a time he was among our best footballers for a sustained period. In the 3 years after he was traded to us. He's played periods where he's been our best player for matches on end.

While he's grown old, he's not a geriatric. He's only 30, not 33. There's plenty of great 30 year-old players still going round.

It's not like he's played the majority of matches during his fall from grace. He did miss a whole season due to injury, not a failing old-man's body or bad form.

The MFC backline is very much up in the air at the moment. Players like Whelan, Rivers and Carroll are ironclad, but other guys, like Ward, Bell, Holland, CJ, Bartram or whoever you've picked will rotate plenty. Our 3rd tall defender is completely up for grabs, and while he's only 188cm and 88kgs he does, or did, play tall. We could find ourselves out of players very quickly if disaster strikes, or bad form finds us, and Bizzell, like Wheatley is a versatile and importantly, experienced defender.

There are plently of cons to throw in, but for now, I think we only need consider his strengths. He's miles from being picked at this stage.

He's miles from being picked at this stage.

If the MFC were of this view, they would've done a Nicho and more or less forced Bizzell to retire. I'm tipping they still see life in the Biz.

They'll unleash him for the NAB Cup (fitness permitting) to see if he's worthy of a rd 1 spot

Check this post RHINO RICHARDS

http://demonland.nozzs.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=4277

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u guys got ripped

apparently hes in our best 22 over the last 30 years

have a good christmas RHINO

Check this post RHINO RICHARDS

http://demonland.nozzs.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=4277

HAHAHA

u guys got ripped

apparently hes in our best 22 over the last 30 years

have a good christmas RHINO

No one is denying that Yze was and has been a very good footballer. Whether or not he gets selected in the best team of the past 30 years is just one person's opinion and as the topic shows, it has created much debate.

The problem is that in recent times his efforts and form have not been the best.

Many people here believe that this decline in form and effort does not warrant his selection in the Melbourne 22.

No one is denying that Yze was and has been a very good footballer. Whether or not he gets selected in the best team of the past 30 years is just one person's opinion and as the topic shows, it has created much debate.

The problem is that in recent times his efforts and form have not been the best.

Many people here believe that this decline in form and effort does not warrant his selection in the Melbourne 22.

perhaps, nice response buddy.

u know where im comin from atleast pitty some people cant see the brighter side to it.

B - Whelan Carroll Bell

HB - Rivers Holland Bartram

C - Johnstone McDonald Davey

HF - Robertson Miller Pickett

F - P.Johnson Neitz Sylvia

R - White Bruce McLean

I/C - Bate Jones Green Moloney

Emerg - Yze C.Johnson Dunn

Beamer if 100% fit is a walk up start to the best 22.

Whelan Carroll Bartram

Green Holland Rivers

Bruce McLean TJ

Sylvia Miller Pickett

Robbo Neitz Davey

White Moloney McDonald

Jamar Jones Yze Bate

EMG Bell PJ Petterd

fairly routine, but their were some hard chices to make

I liked greens game against freo, cleaning up around the backline, he has the class, the mongrel and attack is almost there, adds more leadership down back, and now his ankle spurs are hopefully gone, his kicking to miller leading up the ground will be awesome

Holland is there unless someone else makes a major claim to the position, whether it be Paul Johnson, or Frawley, or some of the older guys (Bizz, Fergs) Holland is our best option

Im going to have miller ahead of Dunn, who will come in eventually, especially if Robbo doesnt fire, I like Millers game, gives us more space in the forward line for Neita to create havoc

as for Yze, if he doesnt fire, he is done, but he is one of our best ever, so he needs the opportunity to prove it