A Day at the Races

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

39 minutes ago, Macca said:

Here is Winx winning today ... 26 in a row with the large majority of those wins being of Group 1 status.  What a champion racehorse. 

The best in the World. 

 

We were lucky to witness it. Will be talked about for decades

[Macca 17,083]

22 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

We were lucky to witness it. Will be talked about for decades

Thanks to Laddies I can at least say I've won money on the horse other than involving the horse in an exotic bet! ?

And as a follow-up to Black Caviar,  we've been very lucky Wadda.  I prefer to not necessarily separate the great ones.  Why can't the select elite be all great?  Like Barassi,  Flower,  Ivor Warne-Smith & Norm Smith.

For instance,  most horse racing enthusiasts are reasonably familiar with Phar Lap's record and Makybe Diva of late but here's Tulloch's record ... I distinctly remember Tommy Smith always talking about how great the horse was and for good reason.  The horse had a major injury as well and therefore missed a lot of racing during its peak years. 

All 5 of the aforementioned horses were classed as the World's best or close to the World's best or would have been in the case of the 2 champs from long ago.

Edited August 18, 2018 by Macca

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

15 hours ago, Macca said:

Thanks to Laddies I can at least say I've won money on the horse other than involving the horse in an exotic bet! ?

And as a follow-up to Black Caviar,  we've been very lucky Wadda.  I prefer to not necessarily separate the great ones.  Why can't the select elite be all great?  Like Barassi,  Flower,  Ivor Warne-Smith & Norm Smith.

For instance,  most horse racing enthusiasts are reasonably familiar with Phar Lap's record and Makybe Diva of late but here's Tulloch's record ... I distinctly remember Tommy Smith always talking about how great the horse was and for good reason.  The horse had a major injury as well and therefore missed a lot of racing during its peak years. 

All 5 of the aforementioned horses were classed as the World's best or close to the World's best or would have been in the case of the 2 champs from long ago.

Yep, right on the money Macca. I thought i was lucky to witness Sunline and Makbe Diva, but these 2 are in a class of their own esp Winx.

Speaking of champions the races are on at Ballarat today....DK Weir anyone? I notice he only has a couple in today, both favourites in race 1 and 4. Not paying that much but multi them up with a few other place getters or a fav from somewhere else perhaps. Some great wins yesterday. Well done team.

[Macca 17,083]

2 hours ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Yep, right on the money Macca. I thought i was lucky to witness Sunline and Makbe Diva, but these 2 are in a class of their own esp Winx.

Speaking of champions the races are on at Ballarat today....DK Weir anyone? I notice he only has a couple in today, both favourites in race 1 and 4. Not paying that much but multi them up with a few other place getters or a fav from somewhere else perhaps. Some great wins yesterday. Well done team.

I've got 'Bit Of A Lad' going with a couple of others in a treble so there's some Weir representation Wadda ... should win.  Small field means the jockey can place the horse wherever he wants.  Probably 2nd for the most part?

It's a little bit different in the major feature race though (Grand National Chase Race 6) ... there are at least 3 genuine chances.  A half-decent trifecta race so I might have a go.

Edited August 19, 2018 by Macca

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12 minutes ago, Macca said:

https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/ballarat-20180819/e-cycle-solutions-grand-national-steeple-race-6

I've got 'Bit Of A Lad' going with a couple of others in a treble so there's some Weir representation Wadda ... should win.  Small field means the jockey can place the horse wherever he wants.  Probably 2nd for the most part?

It's a little bit different in the major feature race though (Grand National Chase Race 6) ... there are at least 3 genuine chances.  A decent trifecta race so I might have a go.

I see Paddy Payne put a couple in. I like to follow Paddy. He trains them very well.

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

Melbourne Cup Watch?

Just watched Marmelo run in the Group 2  Darley Prix Kergorlay at Deauville. Sent out a $1.80 favourite and couldn’t reel in the eventual winner. Finished second by a couple of lengths and looked to hang towards the outside down the straight. Race caller feels he lowered his colours today. He’s in the markets for the Cups, unsure about plans on coming down under though. 

Edited August 19, 2018 by Dee Zephyr

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52 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Melbourne Cup Watch?

Just watched Marmelo run in the Group 2  Darley Prix Keegorlay at Deauville. Sent out a $1.80 favourite and couldn’t reel in the eventual winner. Finished second by a couple of lengths and looked to hang towards the outside down the straight. Race caller feels he lowered his colours today. He’s in the markets for the Cups, unsure about plans on coming down under though. 

Yep, im all for a cup watch and throwing on some early bets before the odds come in. The Jap raider has my interest. Tosen Basil currently 16/1

Edited August 19, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

4 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Yep, im all for a cup watch and throwing on some early bets before the odds come in. The Jap raider has my interest. Tosen Basil currently 16/1

Good idea Wadda, will start researching early for the Cups. Here’s an article on three imports, Tosen Basil included.....interesting comments by Weir.

Weir said Admire Robson and Cassius were on their best behaviour while Tosen Basil needed to improve his race-day manners.

"He's was quite rowdy and boisterous, something that needs a bit of work on," Weir said.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/weir-trained-japanese-gallopers-go-through-their-paces-at-ballarat-20180819

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5 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Good idea Wadda, will start researching early for the Cups. Here’s an article on three imports, Tosen Basil included.....interesting comments by Weir.

Weir said Admire Robson and Cassius were on their best behaviour while Tosen Basil needed to improve his race-day manners.

"He's was quite rowdy and boisterous, something that needs a bit of work on," Weir said.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/weir-trained-japanese-gallopers-go-through-their-paces-at-ballarat-20180819

Such weirdo names....but then everything in japan is weird......i like the Basil

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

6 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Such weirdo names....but then everything in japan is weird......i like the Basil

Ha ha, why wouldn’t the Basil be rowdy and boisterous? We just made the finals!!!!!!!

I like the Japanese horses, had success with Delta Blues in the 2006 Melbourne Cup and Admire Rakti in the 2014 Caulfield Cup. Shame what happened with the latter in the aftermath of the 14’ Melbourne Cup.

Edited August 19, 2018 by Dee Zephyr

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

1 minute ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Ha ha, why wouldn’t the Basil be rowdy and boisterous? We just made the finals!!!!!!!

I like the Japanese horses, had success with Delta Blues in the 2006 Melbourne Cup and Admire Raakti in the 2104 Caulfield Cup. Shame what happened with the latter in the aftermath of the 14’ Melbourne Cup.

Was at the Caulfield Cup that day when Delta Blues and Pop Rock took the quinella. We walked past the stable before the race and there was about 20 Japanese people inside jumping up and down.....me and my mate really noticed it and put some bets on. Did well that day.

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

Santos making a return at Rosehill on Saturday. We are only at Weights stage with final field yet to be decided. Shaping up as a competitive race.

Race 1 - SAN DOMENICO STAKES [GROUP 3] (1100 METRES)
Of $150,000.1st $84,000, 2nd $28,200, 3rd $13,350, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,450, 6th $2,250, 7th $2,250, 8th $2,250, 9th $2,250, 10th $2,250, Equine Welfare Fund $1,500, Jockey Welfare Fund $1,500. GROUP 3 Set Weights plus Penalties, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf  Field Limit: 13 + 4 EM    NOMINATIONS EXTENDED TO: 21/08/2018 11:00:00 AM

 

	Last 10	Horse	Sex	Age	Trainer	Ballot	Weight	Penalty	Hcp Rating
1	11628x1	SANDBAR	C	3	Brad Widdup	1	56kg		85
2	34x110x	SANTOS	C	3	Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott	2	57.5kg		84
3	243x111	DIO D’ORO	C	3	Gary Portelli	3	55kg		80
4	1x1L0x	PERFORMER	C	3	Chris Waller	4	57kg		83
5	110x	JONKER	C	3	David Atkins	5	56kg		78
6	323x81x	PAQUIRRI	C	3	Gary Moore	6	57kg		81
7	2x205x14	PLAGUE STONE	C	3	James Cummings	7	55kg		77
8	11x	GRAFF	C	3	Kris Lees	8	55kg		74
9	1x4x	NEUTRALITY	C	3	Peter & Paul Snowden	9	55kg		68
10	5310x	TCHAIKOVSKY	C	3	Peter & Paul Snowden	10	55kg		71
11	1860x5	RINGERDINGDING	C	3	Edward O'Rourke	11	55kg		67

[Macca 17,083]

10 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Santos making a return at Rosehill on Saturday. We are only at Weights stage with final field yet to be decided. Shaping up as a competitive race.

Race 1 - SAN DOMENICO STAKES [GROUP 3] (1100 METRES)
Of $150,000.1st $84,000, 2nd $28,200, 3rd $13,350, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,450, 6th $2,250, 7th $2,250, 8th $2,250, 9th $2,250, 10th $2,250, Equine Welfare Fund $1,500, Jockey Welfare Fund $1,500. GROUP 3 Set Weights plus Penalties, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf  Field Limit: 13 + 4 EM    NOMINATIONS EXTENDED TO: 21/08/2018 11:00:00 AM

 

	Last 10	Horse	Sex	Age	Trainer	Ballot	Weight	Penalty	Hcp Rating
1	11628x1	SANDBAR	C	3	Brad Widdup	1	56kg		85
2	34x110x	SANTOS	C	3	Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott	2	57.5kg		84
3	243x111	DIO D’ORO	C	3	Gary Portelli	3	55kg		80
4	1x1L0x	PERFORMER	C	3	Chris Waller	4	57kg		83
5	110x	JONKER	C	3	David Atkins	5	56kg		78
6	323x81x	PAQUIRRI	C	3	Gary Moore	6	57kg		81
7	2x205x14	PLAGUE STONE	C	3	James Cummings	7	55kg		77
8	11x	GRAFF	C	3	Kris Lees	8	55kg		74
9	1x4x	NEUTRALITY	C	3	Peter & Paul Snowden	9	55kg		68
10	5310x	TCHAIKOVSKY	C	3	Peter & Paul Snowden	10	55kg		71
11	1860x5	RINGERDINGDING	C	3	Edward O'Rourke	11	55kg		67

 

Wow!  Impressive copy & paste there DZ ... I believe I mentioned the match-up against Sandbar for Santos last week back but there's some decent opposition apart from Sandbar. 

Performer,  Plague Stone & Dio D'ora round out at least 5 genuine chances in the race.  The 1100m might suit Santos the best though.   Small field but could well be a good betting race with so many chances.

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13 minutes ago, Macca said:

Wow!  Impressive copy & paste there DZ ... I believe I mentioned the match-up against Sandbar for Santos last week back but there's some decent opposition apart from Sandbar. 

Performer,  Plague Stone & Dio D'ora round out at least 5 genuine chances in the race.  The 1100m might suit Santos the best though.   Small field but could well be a good betting race with so many chances.

Ha Ha...thanks Macca.

I remember you mentioning the match-up between Sandbar and Santos last week. This race should be a beauty, I can’t wait. Final fields will be out tomorrow of course and will start the studying as soon as they are listed. 

I’ll have the latest on Santos later in the week.

[Macca 17,083]

6 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Ha Ha...thanks Macca.

I remember you mentioning the match-up between Sandbar and Santos last week. This race should be a beauty, I can’t wait. Final fields will be out tomorrow of course and will start the studying as soon as they are listed. 

I’ll have the latest on Santos later in the week.

I have still got visions of Performer veering off the track and in the process throwing Hughie Bowman off.  Scary moment that was.  And Performer was the early favourite for the Slipper from memory. 

There's a slight lull this week with only 5 Group or Listed races out of the Rosehill & Moonee Valley meetings but the rest of the program's at each venue are still quite solid.  Still,  the 5 Stakes races have a number of well performed familiar horses engaged. 

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7 minutes ago, Macca said:

I have still got visions of Performer veering off the track and in the process throwing Hughie Bowman off.  Scary moment that was.  And Performer was the early favourite for the Slipper from memory. 

There's a slight lull this week with only 5 Group or Listed races out of the Rosehill & Moonee Valley meetings but the rest of the program's at each venue are still quite solid.  Still,  the 5 Stakes races have a number of well performed familiar horses engaged. 

Yes, how we can we forget the famous Performer sidestep and he was an early favourite for the Slipper. That was a nasty fall.

Must be time soon for the ‘Team Trifecta’ Macca. Happy to go again when you find a suitable selection of races.

[Macca 17,083]

10 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Yes, how we can we forget the famous Performer sidestep and he was an early favourite for the Slipper. That was a nasty fall.

Must be time soon for the ‘Team Trifecta’ Macca. Happy to go again when you find a suitable selection of races.

Well DZ I thought I'd hold off whilst we got the Best Sports bet off and running on the other thread.  Just having to find 2 picks works quite well doesn't it?  We'll probably have it down pat in no time. 

So I did have my eye on the Memsie Stakes on the 1st of Sept as that race looks like attracting a top-notch field.  There are 3 or 4 other decent races on that weekend so it doesn't have to be the Memsie.  Here are the early odds ...

 

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11 minutes ago, Macca said:

Well DZ I thought I'd hold off whilst we got the Best Sports bet off and running on the other thread.  Just having to find 2 picks works quite well doesn't it?  We'll probably have it down pat in no time. 

So I did have my eye on the Memsie Stakes on the 1st of Sept as that race looks like attracting a top-notch field.  There are 3 or 4 other decent races on that weekend so it doesn't have to be the Memsie.  Here are the early odds ...

 

Love your thinking Macca.....start of September sounds really good to kick off the ‘Trifecta’ amongst other things if you know what I mean. ?

Wow, hot field above.....good old ‘Tom Melbourne‘ resuming in September.....sorry, enough with the ‘Omens’.

Edited August 21, 2018 by Dee Zephyr

[Macca 17,083]

8 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Love your thinking Macca.....start of September sounds really good to kick off the ‘Trifecta’ amongst other things if you know what I mean. ?

Wow, hot field above.....good old ‘Tom Melbourne‘ resuming in September.....sorry, enough with the ‘Omens’.

September is now going to be chock-full of sports where we've multiple interests.  Fantastic.

Demons,  Racing,  Rugby League finals,  Baseball playoffs later on in the month and of course the NFL starts as well.  Speaking of which ...

Your Chicago Bears are playing Wadda's & my Green Bay Packers at Lambeau in the first week of the NFL regular season (Monday Sept 10th) The biggest and oldest rivalry in American Football. 

Hopefully we'll see both of you gentlemen on the NFL thread ... at least for the tipping comp. 

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3 minutes ago, Macca said:

September is now going to be chock-full of sports where we've multiple interests.  Fantastic.

Demons,  Racing,  Rugby League finals,  Baseball playoffs later on in the month and of course the NFL starts as well.  Speaking of which ...

Your Chicago Bears are playing Wadda's & my Green Bay Packers at Lambeau in the first week of the NFL regular season (Monday Sept 10th) The biggest and oldest rivalry in American Football. 

Hopefully we'll see both of you gentlemen on the NFL thread ... at least for the tipping comp. 

Da Bears!!!!

Yeah, I’d love to come over and join in the tipping comp, I’ll start only with that, haven’t followed the NFL as closely the last few years, I’ve been reading the thread every few days though. 

NHL commencing in October to follow all the madness of September. Good times ahead Macca.

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

?? Final field is out for the San Domenico and no Santos. They didn’t accept for some reason.

 

Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $150,000.1st $84,000, 2nd $28,200, 3rd $13,350, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,450, 6th $2,250, 7th $2,250, 8th $2,250, 9th $2,250, 10th $2,250, Equine Welfare Fund $1,500, Jockey Welfare Fund $1,500. GROUP 3 Set Weights plus Penalties, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf  Field Limit: 13 + 4 EM    NOMINATIONS EXTENDED TO: 21/08/2018 11:00:00 AM

 

No	Last 10	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Barrier	Weight	Penalty	Hcp Rating
1	1x1L0x	PERFORMER	Chris Waller	Hugh Bowman	8	57kg		83
2	323x81x	PAQUIRRI	Gary Moore	Andrew Adkins	7	57kg		81
3	110x	JONKER	David Atkins	Corey Brown	2	56kg		78
4	243x111	DIO D’ORO	Gary Portelli	Ms Rachel King	9	55kg		80
5	2x205x14	PLAGUE STONE	James Cummings	Glyn Schofield	5	55kg		77
6	11x	GRAFF	Kris Lees	Jason Collett	1	55kg		74
7	5310x	TCHAIKOVSKY	Peter & Paul Snowden		4	55kg		71
8	1x4x	NEUTRALITY	Peter & Paul Snowden		3	55kg		68
9	1860x5	RINGERDINGDING	Edward O'Rourke	Tim Clark	6	55kg		67

 

Edited August 22, 2018 by Dee Zephyr

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

8 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

?? Final field is out for the San Domenico and no Santos. They didn’t accept for some reason.

 

Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $150,000.1st $84,000, 2nd $28,200, 3rd $13,350, 4th $6,750, 5th $3,450, 6th $2,250, 7th $2,250, 8th $2,250, 9th $2,250, 10th $2,250, Equine Welfare Fund $1,500, Jockey Welfare Fund $1,500. GROUP 3 Set Weights plus Penalties, Three-Years-Old, Apprentices cannot claim. Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf  Field Limit: 13 + 4 EM    NOMINATIONS EXTENDED TO: 21/08/2018 11:00:00 AM

 

No	Last 10	Horse	Trainer	Jockey	Barrier	Weight	Penalty	Hcp Rating
1	1x1L0x	PERFORMER	Chris Waller	Hugh Bowman	8	57kg		83
2	323x81x	PAQUIRRI	Gary Moore	Andrew Adkins	7	57kg		81
3	110x	JONKER	David Atkins	Corey Brown	2	56kg		78
4	243x111	DIO D’ORO	Gary Portelli	Ms Rachel King	9	55kg		80
5	2x205x14	PLAGUE STONE	James Cummings	Glyn Schofield	5	55kg		77
6	11x	GRAFF	Kris Lees	Jason Collett	1	55kg		74
7	5310x	TCHAIKOVSKY	Peter & Paul Snowden		4	55kg		71
8	1x4x	NEUTRALITY	Peter & Paul Snowden		3	55kg		68
9	1860x5	RINGERDINGDING	Edward O'Rourke	Tim Clark	6	55kg		67

 

Bugger....guess we are on Performer then....?

Edit: who is going to be Santos usual rider? Does he have one??

Edited August 22, 2018 by Wadda We Sing

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

2 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Bugger....guess we are on Performer then....?

Edit: who is going to be Santos usual rider? Does he have one??

Tim Clark rode him last prep in all races. Santos finished second in a trial a couple of weeks ago, not sure what’s going on there. 

We’ll go with Performer, no Sandbar either.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

12 hours ago, Macca said:

Well DZ I thought I'd hold off whilst we got the Best Sports bet off and running on the other thread.  Just having to find 2 picks works quite well doesn't it?  We'll probably have it down pat in no time. 

So I did have my eye on the Memsie Stakes on the 1st of Sept as that race looks like attracting a top-notch field.  There are 3 or 4 other decent races on that weekend so it doesn't have to be the Memsie.  Here are the early odds ...

 

Id love to know the dollar value of that field........30m? Pfft..

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Vega Magic	2.75
Kementari	4.50
Happy Clapper	5.50
Grunt	10.00
Voodoo Lad	10.00
Black Heart Bart	14.00
Kings Will Dream	14.00
Humidor	16.00
D'Argento	21.00
Le Romain	21.00
Santa Ana Lane	21.00
Danon Liberty	26.00
Dollar For Dollar	26.00
Hey Doc	26.00
Home Of The Brave	26.00
Perast	26.00
Single Gaze	26.00
Mighty Boss	34.00
Comin' Through	41.00
Material Man	41.00
Poetic Dream	41.00
Silent Sedition	41.00
Super Cash	41.00
Tom Melbourne	41.00
Ashlor	61.00
Daysee Doom	61.00
Fastnet Dragon	61.00
Jungle Cat	61.00
Jungle Edge	61.00
Sopressa	61.00
Unforgotten	61.00
Youngstar	61.00
Ace High This is the ladbrokes version Please note the inclusion of Voodoo Lad	101.00

Edited August 22, 2018 by Wadda We Sing