I hope you are not referring to me as a pig (sow).

The thread is not to seek sympathy, but rather to discuss whether what we cop from the media and the other clubs is fair and balanced.

Unfortunately there isn't a lot in this comp that is "fair and balanced".......

But our lot is what it is' and it is up to us to fix it. And if others are whinging maybe we are getting something right.

Thankfully we are finally seem to be doing the right thing for this club to get back to where we all want it to be.

Bugger everyone else, we get this right any bitching and moaning won't matter.

"Fair and balanced" is what the conservatives on Fox News Channel use to give legitimacy to their often unbalanced views of the world.

I think in a way Ben Hur has it right but I don't believe that it's wrong to point to inequities as long as you're prepared to go out and do something about it.

Unfortunately, for way too long, the people in control of the club have always tried to be far too nice. Neale Daniher once said we should become ruthless but he stayed nice. We kept him on as coach for 2 or 3 years too long. And don't get me started on Dean Bailey or Mark Neeld.

Are we being treated fairly by the AFL, the media, the other clubs and the public? Probably not but let's do something about it. I think Roos has started off on the right foot. Let's keep stepping on the toes of others and eventually, when we're winning like Hawthorn and the Swans we'll get respect, not because we ask nicely for it but because we demand it by our actions and achievements.

Its so obvious that t he people running Melbourne over the years have caused all of our problems. Whinging, whining, wringing of hands,playing the blame game is a waste of Energy.We are where we are because of all the bad decisions we have made as a club

WE cannot blame the AFL ,the system, bad luck,any indivigual or anything else.

The club as a whole got us here the club can only heal itself.

I for one am glad we wont get a PP. We don't need it and I would prefer that clubs in future when we start to win cannot say you got and unfair advantage. We must become tough uncompromising hard and feared.When we do that then we will stop being the laughing stock and tool of the AFL

What many are seemingly either too happy to overlook or incapable of understanding is that this game is effectively played as much , if not more , off the field as it is on. Game day is but the tip of the berg, whats floating beneath carries more weight in what and how goes on in this league.

Weve been practically non existent off filed in terms of this leagues administration, time to spark up, indeed arc up

What we need to do now is move on but not to forget. Other club's supporters will say 'poor old Melbourne' and so forth now but I can hear the cat calls of 'AFL assisted' coming later on. We need to remember these people at the end of the day are not our friends. It's great that Eddie gives us Queen's Birthday but if it comes to anything else which might get us of life support and competing with Collingwood, would Eddie be so 'supportive'? Jason Taylor anyone?

We have had a stigma of losing hanging over our heads for too long. When we do start winning, I can see tossers like Basil Zempilas and Dwayne Russell saying condescending things like 'Melbourne aren't used to winning'. I want to see the day where we stick it up the dates of these muppets. I can guarantee you that they will be sycophantic in their praise if we do start winning like they are with Geelong, all the while forgetting what they said about us in the past.

(A lot of ifs in this post!)

Eddie doesn't "give us" QB.

The AFL does.

Eddie and Colling%#$& don't set the fixture.

Eddie doesn't "give us" QB.

The AFL does.

Eddie and Colling%#$& don't set the fixture.

Eddie gave it to us a "home game " every year.

We do not have to share the gate every other year!

Eddie is not the enemy in this instance.

My main issue has always been that we roll over far too easily.

Whilst I see all the injustices mentioned, on far too many occasions we dont even raise a whimper in the face of these injustices.

We need that to change.

edit - I was envious of the Ross Lyon coup by Fremantle - whilst we played it by the numbers with Lyon, Freo identified what they wanted and went out and got it. They havent looked back since that day - it sent a very strong message about how they wanted to be perceived. That is why I was so adament about Roos - dont move on when he mumbled "I am not interested in coaching at this stage" ( not sure how much this was a rouse anyway). I hope this change which is in no small part a PJ thing will continue. Aim for and get what you want without compromise.

Eddie gave it to us a "home game " every year.

We do not have to share the gate every other year!

Eddie is not the enemy in this instance.

I'm sure Eddie likes to spout that its at his behest, but the AFL would make that decision.

"Eddie, we give you only give you 1 Sunday game a year - the dees need QB and that's how it's gonna stay."

I'm sure Eddie likes to spout that its at his behest, but the AFL would make that decision.

"Eddie, we give you only give you 1 Sunday game a year - the dees need QB and that's how it's gonna stay."

I would tend to agree with this view. Eddie is after all a showman ...he can dress things up a tad !!

I do however concur with OD that in general Eddie isnt our enemy. Theres a long line in front of him

I'm sure Eddie likes to spout that its at his behest, but the AFL would make that decision.

"Eddie, we give you only give you 1 Sunday game a year - the dees need QB and that's how it's gonna stay."

Fantasyland.

How much more could Collingwood make if they alternated QBW as a home game against Richmond?

We should be thankful he isn't agitating on this. We don't have a God given right to QBW.

Rhino , last time i looked im pretty sure Vlad still ran the show.