*Likely keepers have been added alongside coaches' names on the opening post. Just for interest's sake and also to possibly guide strategy when assessing who's off the table.

Does anyone remember who the 2012 Premier and Runner-Up was?

Edited February 3, 201312 yr by Range Rover

I would love to join if its at all possible. Or at least jump on the waiting list.

I would love to join if its at all possible. Or at least jump on the waiting list.

Added you to waitlist DF.

Advise to also check out the UF Robbie Flower thread to see what's going on there.

My keepers are looking like:

Watson Ryder

Fyfe Shiels

Jacklives here is a no go for Ufooty this year. Combined with Deevoted, that brings us down to 16.

Yet to sign on from last year are:

WattsCookn (last year's premier) has confirmed he'll be back.

Robbo

Dappa Dan

JCB

Snomed

Eth

I want to get this sorted out as soon as possible so if you are one of these people, or know one of these guys, then please confirm one way or another. I will put a deadline on entry which will probably be in the next couple of weeks.

From that list JA, I think Robbo and snomeD have confirmed they will be back in this thread.

Haven't seen JCB, Dappa Dan post in a while tbh. And eth38 hasn't posted in ages here.

That's all I know to date.

My keepers will be:

S. Thompson, J. Redden / A.Miles, C.Beams

Robbo & snomeD signed in.

Dappa confirms he will not be back.. meaning we have 1 spot open. Welcome then to Deeflog if you're still keen. I'll PM you.

still outstanding:

WattsCookn - will join

Deeflog - new entry

JCB

Eth

Edited February 4, 201312 yr by JACKATTACK

And if anyone trades before the draft it is with, and only with, the four nominated players and future picks.

For instance - If I have Goddard, Dangerfield / Ziebell, Harwood - I cannot trade Goddard for an upgrade of Harwood and then use Grimes as my 4th 'keeper'.

With that understood - can anyone offer a trade for Goddard that gets me an upgrade on Harwood?

This would mean two lower ranked players with the new team taking both Goddard and Harwood OR giving me a better deal and getting a pick above where Harwood would be.

If anyone does any trades pre-draft - this may get complicated so everyone be patient.

And if anyone trades before the draft it is with, and only with, the four nominated players and future picks.

For instance - If I have Goddard, Dangerfield / Ziebell, Harwood - I cannot trade Goddard for an upgrade of Harwood and then use Grimes as my 4th 'keeper'.

With that understood - can anyone offer a trade for Goddard that gets me an upgrade on Harwood?

This would mean two lower ranked players with the new team taking both Goddard and Harwood OR giving me a better deal and getting a pick above where Harwood would be.

If anyone does any trades pre-draft - this may get complicated so everyone be patient.

you'll have to submit pre-draft trades to me via this forum.... I need to manually update the draft order.

To help in trading i'll try and get everyone online ASAP, then I can set the order of the draft and we'll know what picks are available for trading.

Am I next in line? Still keen if there is a spot.

Am I next in line? Still keen if there is a spot.

Yep

And if anyone trades before the draft it is with, and only with, the four nominated players and future picks.

For instance - If I have Goddard, Dangerfield / Ziebell, Harwood - I cannot trade Goddard for an upgrade of Harwood and then use Grimes as my 4th 'keeper'.

With that understood - can anyone offer a trade for Goddard that gets me an upgrade on Harwood?

This would mean two lower ranked players with the new team taking both Goddard and Harwood OR giving me a better deal and getting a pick above where Harwood would be.

If anyone does any trades pre-draft - this may get complicated so everyone be patient.

RPFC what are you talking about?

I have heaps of Rookies I wont be using : Steven Motlop, Gary Rohan, Jonothon Patten, Billy Longer, Thomas Bugg, Jesse Stringer

If interested how do we trade? I don't get it?

PS : Eth 38 is missing in action ? S-T-I-N-G-A will get a gig surely!

Ok, the reason why I don't like us trading outside of the 4 keepers is because it extends the strong teams from last year into this year if they are trading surplus players for picks.

We can discuss it. It's not a big deal. I am happy with whatever people decide.

But be warned - if we get to trade away last years team it is in effect meaning that we have a whole team full of keepers - as we are getting to trade them...

Given that our keepers are still up in the air pending draft/holding out for possible NAB cup injuries I think we should be able to trade whoever?

That said, my view is that we shouldn't be able to trade outside keepers for RP's reason - they're not really keepers if we can keep them and trade to upgrade from outside the 4.

I like this trading idea, although I think it's coz I could offload josh Kennedy for a keeper who is better than Ryan bastinac haha

Deeflog you have been added to the comp. Please confirm your commitment. S-t-i-n-g-a you're next in line.

I'm lost on this pre-draft trading thing. What was the point of all that late season horse-trading in 2012 if we're just going to go change it all up before the start of round 1? I'm for keeping things as they are but will defer to JA's decision on it.

Also ... who does Deeflog (and any other new coach) get allocated as his 'keepers'? Or does he/they just take over the list of a previous coach?

JA?

New teams will have an old team allocated to them... decided at random after we finalise numbers.

I'm going to give JCB and Eth until mid-day Sunday 17th Feb. Then I'll put it out to new people.

As for trading: for simplicity here is the rules pre-draft:

Each trade must have equal numbers of keepers, and equal numbers of rookie keepers.

So you can trade a keeper with another keeper with picks added on.

Or a rookie with a rookie with picks.

But you can't trade a keeper for a rookie, or 2 keepers for a keeper, or just picks for a keeper.

Trades can be submitted to me for approval on this forum, and I can advise people of what can and can't be done.

New teams will have an old team allocated to them... decided at random after we finalise numbers.

I'm going to give JCB and Eth until mid-day Sunday 17th Feb. Then I'll put it out to new people.

As for trading: for simplicity here is the rules pre-draft:

Each trade must have equal numbers of keepers, and equal numbers of rookie keepers.

So you can trade a keeper with another keeper with picks added on.

Or a rookie with a rookie with picks.

But you can't trade a keeper for a rookie, or 2 keepers for a keeper, or just picks for a keeper.

Trades can be submitted to me for approval on this forum, and I can advise people of what can and can't be done.

So this pre-draft trading begins once everyone is locked in and draft order is known?

And if anyone trades before the draft it is with, and only with, the four nominated players and future picks.

For instance - If I have Goddard, Dangerfield / Ziebell, Harwood - I cannot trade Goddard for an upgrade of Harwood and then use Grimes as my 4th 'keeper'.

With that understood - can anyone offer a trade for Goddard that gets me an upgrade on Harwood?

This would mean two lower ranked players with the new team taking both Goddard and Harwood OR giving me a better deal and getting a pick above where Harwood would be.

If anyone does any trades pre-draft - this may get complicated so everyone be patient.

Wait - I am confused by JCB's post.

Just clarify - I have nominated S. Thompson, J. Redden / A.Miles, C.Beams as my keepers.

I have Thomas, Carrazzo and Sylvia who may be of interest to people. Could I trade one of them for a rookie keeper to go ahead of Miles or Beams?

So this pre-draft trading begins once everyone is locked in and draft order is known?

This would make sense to me, still a little dazed by it all though

Wait - I am confused by JCB's post.

Just clarify - I have nominated S. Thompson, J. Redden / A.Miles, C.Beams as my keepers.

I have Thomas, Carrazzo and Sylvia who may be of interest to people. Could I trade one of them for a rookie keeper to go ahead of Miles or Beams?

You cannot trade non-keepers because by trading them you are 'keeping' them.

Do you get what I am saying?

You can trade Redden and a pick for an upgrade or Redden and Miles for an downgrade on Redden and an upgrade on Miles.

But you can't trade Thomas, et al as they are not one of your 4 selected keepers.

Edited February 5, 201312 yr by rpfc

Gotcha. Submitted my keepers

RR, JA - I have updated my nominated keepers Bartel in for Clark RR.

RR, JA - I have updated my nominated keepers Bartel in for Clark RR.

*duly updated

*duly updated

Cheers, heard a bit of mail that Clark may take a while until he is 100%. Same for Trengove.