I was just looking at the ladder, and by my reckoning, if North beat Freo next week the last round of football may come down to % between the Blues and Freo to get in the 8, as long as Carlton can beat the Siants in the final round.

It is our turn to get back at Carltank for the Kreuzer Cup match and Brock for his OTC comments, and field our worst side possible, and go over ther and get thumped and hopefully knock the Blues out of the 8. It is not tanking to gain an advantage, but rather tanking for another teams disadvantage.

Not sure if serious??????

I am not sure if I am either. Just putting it out there.

But it would be a beautiful irony with all the crap that Brock has cause the club over the last few weeks.

Been thinking about the tanking probe and how it is a major topic of conversation due to the priority pick. But in my opinion, unless there is a change in the current set up, the last few matches each year could also have a stench of suspicion about performance and desire to win. Can someone please show me why (if we had the necessary talent - which we don't) we would be advantaged by beating either of Adelaide or freo? By my logic it will at a minimum likely push us from pick 3 and 4 to 5 and 6, at a maximum ruin the only chance we have of getting JV with second round. don't get me wrong, would love a win in the next two cause I don't reckon in five years it will make a difference what number out picks are, but the system is STILL crap. Lottery now.

Is it wrong that I'm more worried about winning one of the last two and moving above the doggies...by the end of today our % will be better than theirs...its a horrible system...we still have so much to gain by losing

Picks 3 and 4 rather than 5 and 6 and a greater chance of getting Viney in the second round.

Had the same conversation last night. If only the Blues game was on the Saturday - we'd have a clearer picture.

I thought this in 2010, but I'm hoping this is the last year that I have to care about draft picks/positioning for a long time.

Thats my issue stinga. I'm sick of it. Football is a passion of mine, but this whole saga stinks and is sapping some of my enthusiasm. I used to love going to the foothold and being absolutely and always hellbent on winning at all costs. Please AFL, make this happen again ASAP.

Thats my issue stinga. I'm sick of it. Football is a passion of mine, but this whole saga stinks and is sapping some of my enthusiasm. I used to love going to the foothold and being absolutely and always hellbent on winning at all costs. Please AFL, make this happen again ASAP.

Obviously the AFL is responsible for the mess at the bottom end (alleviated in future years from our end with no more compensation/priority picks) but if we were 14-6, you'd be pretty hell bent on winning next week! It's up to the team to lift performance to ensure winning is the sole objective each week. Hopefully the cutting of dead wood will speed up that process.

Are you guys serious?

We could take our best team to Freo and we'll still get done by 10 goals.

We're not good enough......yet.

This is just another practice match.

If prefer Carlton to scrape into the 8 and lose to West Coast by 15 goals at Subiaco.