RR, I think you undervalue what he does and how well he does it. Trengove, Moloney and magner will be pushed out before Jordie.

And he cannot kick.

I agree RR unfortunately he is the best of a bad lot of mid fielders.

Not sure if everyone has noticed but we are effectively last on the ladder with one genuine win.

We have mainly a team of second raters, IMO it is that simple.

I take it you won't be bothering to watch or go to the game then

I think the second raters applies to some of the supporters MFC has rather than the players

I suppose everybody on this board can put one straight through the big sticks from behind their keyboard, and hit a moving target across their lounge room

RR, I think you undervalue what he does and how well he does it. Trengove, Moloney and magner will be pushed out before Jordie.

Not sure that defeats RR's arguement timD

The others are so ordinary it just shows how poor the competition is for a mid field spot in the Dees side.

Jodie is an honest battler who does a good job of tagging some players.

To expect a lot more is really pushing the envelope

I take it you won't be bothering to watch or go to the game then

I think the second raters applies to some of the supporters MFC has rather than the players

I suppose everybody on this board can put one straight through the big sticks from behind their keyboard, and hit a moving target across their lounge room

I don't get paid to play satyricon

Slagging me won't change the way the team plays.

We are bottom of the competition that is a fact, the score board does not lie.

To achieve that it follows we have the worse group of players.

Seems fairly logical

Gives me far from any joy but facts are facts

And to answer your question I will be there tomorrow.

I thought it was logical that if you think the team is such a bunch of losers you wouldn't waste your time attending or watching

I wasn't slagging you off personally, I didn't name names. I just get rather bored with posters who are consistently negative, I don't understand why they bother if it gets them down so much

We are not bottom of the competition we are 3rd from bottom.

The club had fallen so far behind in the last ten years or so, it needs to be rebuilt, the last place that is going to happen is on the field, Mark Neeld is in his first year.

To get back on topic, Jordie McKenzie will I hope play 2-300 games for MFC, a lot of posters on this thread agree, a couple don't so they just slag the player off, that achieves a lot doesn't it

Forgot my last bit, let's do a Carlton and build up a mass hysteria that is slowly disolving...no I prefer to stick with what we are doing

I thought it was logical that if you think the team is such a bunch of losers you wouldn't waste your time attending or watching

I wasn't slagging you off personally, I didn't name names. I just get rather bored with posters who are consistently negative, I don't understand why they bother if it gets them down so much

We are not bottom of the competition we are 3rd from bottom.

The club had fallen so far behind in the last ten years or so, it needs to be rebuilt, the last place that is going to happen is on the field, Mark Neeld is in his first year.

To get back on topic, Jordie McKenzie will I hope play 2-300 games for MFC, a lot of posters on this thread agree, a couple don't so they just slag the player off, that achieves a lot doesn't it

Forgot my last bit, let's do a Carlton and build up a mass hysteria that is slowly disolving...no I prefer to stick with what we are doing

What I said was that we are "effectively bottom"

Having two teams made of kids who have a collectively game total of 48 games in the competition below you is effectively bottom

What I said was "Jodie is an honest battler who does a good job of tagging some players"

Now does that not describe him?

My big problem with him is his kicking is poor.

Not sure you can be a very good player if your kicking is poor.

If I gave up following the Dees because we were poor I would have quit around 1972.

Not sure what the problem is with admitting we have a poor team when we plainly do.

I wonder if Scully has recovered from the hiding that Jordie gave him a few weeks ago, I see he's been dropped this week, they reckon it's a groin injury but if it was why would they name him an emergency. He probably hasn't had any sleep since knowing that he, the second highest paid player in the comp, was completely beaten by one of the lowest paid players in the comp.

I wonder if Scully has recovered from the hiding that Jordie gave him a few weeks ago, I see he's been dropped this week, they reckon it's a groin injury but if it was why would they name him an emergency. He probably hasn't had any sleep since knowing that he, the second highest paid player in the comp, was completely beaten by one of the lowest paid players in the comp.

WE can only hope RobbieF

Offensive in a clearance sense, like Priddis. He has good hands and can find the footy. I don't see any of our other mids consistently clearing the ball.

The difference being Priddis is a VERY smart clearance player and reads the ball extremely well.

Watch for Priddis to have a big second half of the year, I watch him very closely and his work around the packs is as good as any.

There is a reason why Shuey and Kerr are in devastating form, Priddis makes life A LOT easier for the other mids.

Jordie on the other hand is solely a tagger, he is't as clean as Priddis via hand - I couldnt even make a comparison such is the gap.

On top of that, Jordie is alot weaker in nearly every area in comparison to Priddis.

I agree with you cfh but do not kid yourself he is never going to be a Rich.

The funniest thing about discussing JM is that we all sound as though we have a choice.

He will be at the MFC for a long time, with the exception of Jones he is the best we have.

Youv'e got to be joking.

Too many on this forum have low expectations. Jordie is a very average tagger, but a good tagger for us. We are on the bottom group of the ladder. There is a reason for that. Jordie is good in the middle of the pack because he will never be adequate anywhere else. He commits the cardinal sin of footballers aspiring to be good, he loses his feet and plays to often on his knees. A solid performer, Greast courage and guts but who will be replaced if we rise up the ladder to the top end.

I disagree with the haters, Jodie mckenzie will be inthe red and blue for a long time to come.

I fully agree that his kicking is bad, bordering on atrocious but that is not the telling statistic that it once was.

With the teams new gameplan which is heavily reliant on contested footy we not necessarily need 22elite kicks (though it would be nice)

I could see him, for the next 7-10 years getting to the bottom of the pack and getting the handball to our outside runners who would be the elite kicks.

He is never going to be our pendleberry but he could be our Luke ball