So you were satisfied with his 2011?

To me he played 3 good games

Against the Swans...Against the Crows and Against the Bombers....all at the MCG.

The rest was pretty ordinary....

Jeez WYL, I realise you're a passionate Demon and you, like the rest of the Demon faithful have had a tough couple of weeks. But now you're just making [censored] up !

19 Brownlow votes knackers.

Reckon more than just me & Tricky thought Moloney had more than three good games

Still a one-trick-pony though.

I was reasonably satisfied with his 2011. And he played more than 3 good games.

I don't recall seeing anything as poor as his performance on Saturday.

You said earlier that he overrates himself, but I think maybe you are overrating him.

I don't expect him to consistently turn games like a Judd but I still believe he is important to our group - at least for this season.

His best isn't brilliant but it's solid and we need it.

I do not over rate Beamer at all. He gets beaten by many of the better midfielders. He rarely beats them.

Jeez WYL, I realise you're a passionate Demon and you, like the rest of the Demon faithful have had a tough couple of weeks. But now you're just making [censored] up !

19 Brownlow votes knackers.

Reckon more than just me & Tricky thought Moloney had more than three good games

What games did he poll those votes in?

That will tell you a lot. I bet it wasn't against the good sides.

I do not over rate Beamer at all. He gets beaten by many of the better midfielders. He rarely beats them.

I don't disagree with that - he isn't the most talented player going around.

The same could be said for Jnr, but it was mistake to get rid of him.

The same could be said for Jnr, but it was mistake to get rid of him.

That's debatable. A year off seems to have done him good, but who knows how he'd have played in 2011 if we'd kept him on?

Is this what some alluded to about the cut it with a knife atmosphere at the Blazer ceremony???

It might be that there is some Ill will between some of the 'Old Guard', and this New Broom sweeping through the club, Off field...??? Is there a chasm between some,,,, who would be coach & aren't, and those who are? (Hmmn, Matthew Knights)

It's time to Bare that closet, shake it & rattle it till those 'Ol bones fall out, then get the Chaplain to say a prayer for those who've been caught in there for too long... make they're peace & move on!

Lets all be honest here.

The players have let the club down over quite a few years not all there fault i agree.

The club has rebuilt the football department have strategy and some view of the future.

If some players cant adjust move them on.

This is no time to have friends relationships or good times this is the time to change what we stand for

It will be hard, players and people will feel hurt at times but we must do the hard things now or the whole club will remain in the wilderness and probably not exist in the future.

And if players want a friendly pat on the bum from Bailey for underperforming then i think they will and should look elsewhere.