We would need to win all 4. And when was the last time we won 4 in a row?? It has been so long I can't remember......

If I had a 4 wheel drive, money and knew how to ski I would be off to the snow......

We play gold coast twice this year so if we end up on 10.5 wins, that's really only 8.5 in my book. The nature of our losses too have been bad and do not deserve to play finals

So because we beat port adelaide and brisbane that makes it 6 1/2 wins is it? Any victory should consider as a win, no mater which team we play?

Deserve is a very subjective word .

If we bully 3 more teams and dont get thrashed tomorrow ,we could be in .

Essendon don't deserve to lick our boots .But I still want eighth spot ahead of them

Now do some of you FINALly get it ??????

Now do some of you FINALly get it ??????

Yeah, heaven behold some of the posters on here wanted/dreamed of club success in late 2011. What FWIT's they all are.

I want success. Am just not prepared to relinquish a reasoned perspective to things.

and as if to add insult to injury teh Toiges are comfortably accounting for Sydney currently.. ...but hey those last two games look a cert....well the last one anyway....probably

If we win the last three and Sydney lose their last four, we will make it.

Currently Sydney is five goals down to Richmond. Worrying signs for them. Their next two games are against St Kilda (at ANZ) and Geelong (in Geelong). They can lose both of those, IMO, and if they do, and we beat Richmond (questionable at best) and Gold Coast, then we'd be level on points going into the last round.

In that round, we play Port, and even we should not be losing to Port, and they play Brisbane at the SCG. They will probably win that last game, which, assuming we can win the last three, would make it a battle of percentage. Which we won't win, given the last few weeks we've seen our percentage cop a hammering.

Anyway, point is, we're still a mathematical chance, and maybe that is enough to get an effort out of our group. I mean, I'd hate to see what would happen if we didn't think we were a chance to make finals and lost any motivation that that provides our players.

and as if to add insult to injury teh Toiges are comfortably accounting for Sydney currently.. ...but hey those last two games look a cert....well the last one anyway....probably

Lighten up belze. If we make it we make it. If not, I just want to see 4 QTR's of effort for the last three. Syd have the Saints and Cats to come. I think we will miss out on %.

10 and a half wins is a good improvement.

if we make it.................................................................................lol

if we make it.................................................................................lol

Read my post again. I THINK WE WILL MISS OUT ON %. It's almost like you are punishing yourself by this team having any success.

Read my post again. I THINK WE WILL MISS OUT ON %. It's almost like you are punishing yourself by this team having any success.

Mate no disprespect.. we arent within a bulls roar. In case yo haven theard the Toiges smacked Sydney by 43 points. . Were next. Theyre playing accountable , methodical and progressive footy and getting better.

We're doing NONE of the above...its horrible to think it but thats where we're at.

Then we have GC...now we really OUGHT to win that one. .but im not game currently to put money on that. .And Port..well that opught to be a gift.

try the ladder predicter.. We'll be lucky to finish 10th .. impossible to finish in 8

try the ladder predicter.. We'll be lucky to finish 10th .. impossible to finish in 8

You really can be stupid sometimes.

No one is suggesting we are going to make the finals. But the possibility is there. Win the last three, and Sydney either loses the last three, or we make up enough percentage on them so that they only lose two. Either of those scenarios occur and, whether we deserve it or not, which is a different debate, we will be in the finals.

No, we do not deserve it, and no, we will do nothing if we make it, but the way the draw is shaped, we are a pretty strong chance to be level on points with Sydney at the conclusion of Round 23. Of course, we may lose to either Richmond or Gold Coast. But we might also beat them both.

You really can be stupid sometimes.

No one is suggesting we are going to make the finals. But the possibility is there. Win the last three, and Sydney either loses the last three, or we make up enough percentage on them so that they only lose two. Either of those scenarios occur and, whether we deserve it or not, which is a different debate, we will be in the finals.

No, we do not deserve it, and no, we will do nothing if we make it, but the way the draw is shaped, we are a pretty strong chance to be level on points with Sydney at the conclusion of Round 23. Of course, we may lose to either Richmond or Gold Coast. But we might also beat them both.

Im stupid...get real... your scenarios with al due respect are ful lof it.. and I dont mean reality. Sydney will not lose to the Lions on home turf. We are really up against it to beat Richmond.

Its either Nth..or Sydney for 8th spot.

but dream on if it makes you happy

Im stupid...get real... your scenarios with al due respect are ful lof it.. and I dont mean reality. Sydney will not lose to the Lions on home turf. We are really up against it to beat Richmond.

Its either Nth..or Sydney for 8th spot.

but dream on if it makes you happy

My scenarios are just that. Scenarios.

Sydney just lost to Richmond. Brisbane are the most competitive 4-15 side I've seen ever, probably. I'm not saying Brisbane will beat Sydney, but I am saying the option is there.

Similarly, we are a good chance to lose to Richmond. But we beat them well this year already and we do play them pretty well.

The options are there.

mine are broken...can I borrow some !!!