Caro was onto it early, but it wasn't quite the story back then that it is now:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dees-magic-flickers-20110422-1driv.html

Anyone who tried to discuss this on the forum back then was shouted down and copped a lot of abuse.

You just get the feeling there's still much more to much of this.

Theres a fraction too much friction

or

its an affliction of too much fiction !!

Speculation of course

So ..one part of the club is effecting a push for change...and anotbher is pushing back.

As old as time itself

Speculation that doesn't fit with the oft-reported suggestion that Scully is one who is unhappy with Schwab's reported meddling.

I found this on Big Footy take it for what you want; the poster seems to have a fair bit of inside info if it's true.

So that's why Bate didn't get the handball in the goal square?

I jest, but it's certainly a plan that could create the wrong types of incentives.

1. The issue with performance based contracts is that your ability to contain TPP is contingent to an extent on the performance of the players. If each and every player reaches or achieves his performance metric then you salary cap will be breached and a Club does not want to do that. Also if the performance metrics are set too unreasonably then the introduction of PBC just represents a subtle salary haircut that is bound to pizz players and their managers off. This is also not something the Club wants to do.

This isn't a problem is the metrics are relative to the MFC cohort (ie. top 5% of x, top n finish in best and fairest), rather than either absolute or relative to the entire competition (ie. n handballs, n Brownlow votes).

Speculation that doesn't fit with the oft-reported suggestion that Scully is one who is unhappy with Schwab's reported meddling.

Honestly Rogue i am over him. I thing he is more trouble than he is worth

I actually think i would prefer he went GWS

lets get the two draft picks and move on.

Edited August 4, 201113 yr by old dee

Honestly Rogue i am over him. I thing he is more trouble than he is worth

I actually think i would prefer he went GWS

lets get the two draft picks and move on.

Each to their own, but can we please keep that type of stuff in the [now multitude] of Scully threads?

(In case clarification is necessary, my comment had nothing to do with whether Scully is staying or leaving; it was a rebuttal to the assertion that it's the senior players on their last contract who are reportedly unhappy with CS and co).

(In case clarification is necessary, my comment had nothing to do with whether Scully is staying or leaving; it was a rebuttal to the assertion that it's the senior players on their last contract who are reportedly unhappy with CS and co).

And yet the reccent displays of the older group bring their causes into focus. Neither Green nor Rivers looked suitably devasted after the debacle. Sylvias management are on record as being miffed by the performance clauses. At the same time you had a number of the kids giving their all but with no senior backup.

You make of that what you will.. I ll make of it what I choose.

Each to their own, but can we please keep that type of stuff in the [now multitude] of Scully threads?

(In case clarification is necessary, my comment had nothing to do with whether Scully is staying or leaving; it was a rebuttal to the assertion that it's the senior players on their last contract who are reportedly unhappy with CS and co).

Good point Rogue.

Sorry mate I am down this week.

Would just like them all to worry about playing football I thought that was what they got paid to do.

Or perhaps I am just over all the ego's at the Dees!

Sorry mate I am down this week.

Would just like them all to worry about playing football I thought that was what they got paid to do.

Or perhaps I am just over all the ego's at the Dees!

Fair call; it's ridiculous that this can be an excuse for such a terrible performance.

And yet the reccent displays of the older group bring their causes into focus. Neither Green nor Rivers looked suitably devasted after the debacle. Sylvias management are on record as being miffed by the performance clauses. At the same time you had a number of the kids giving their all but with no senior backup.

You make of that what you will.. I ll make of it what I choose.

Maybe you missed my point.

You put down the reported complaints from the playing group down to senior players worried about their career and so forth.

However, one of the oft reported players unhappy about the reported 'meddling' is Scully, a second year player with a 4-5 year contract on the table.

This indicates that the complaints can't be put down to senior players feeling insecure, and thus is a hole in your theory.

For what it's worth, no one's going to argue that there's no problem with our senior players, but that's neither here nor there when it comes to the plausability of your theory.